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Well, today 2/24/05 my car broke down at 3:20pm..i just released the clutch all the way and started rolling(5mph) when the motor seized, shocking the drivetrain to a stop ,locking the wheels up,and squelling the tires, when i tryed to start it at the gas station the starter could not turn over the motor...as if somthing was fighting agist the starter. i donk know what it is that making it seize but i know its bad.
DAY BEFORE... The car ran fine all day , i drove it to work fine but then as i was leaving work i started it up. and heard a metal on metal wraping almost sounding like a wood pecker. between about 2500RPM and 3500RPM the wrapping wood pecker was the loudest. i had to drive 10 miles like that. i had no choice. i got home i checked the oil in the crankcase with the dipstick, very odd there isnt any oil in the crankcase, the dip stick was bone dry. i filled her up with a quart and a half of oil. let it idle. i check the oil filter, it was on nice and tight, i know how oil likes to leak out after the oil filter unscrews its self...the next moring i let the car idle for about 10min then i drove to school, the wrapping was gone but as soon as you accelerate the wood pecker comes back. then i was on my way to the dentist after school and the events of 2/24/05 happened. the car didnt make a sound when it sezied, it just shut off and the wheels locked up, almost as if i stalled. the motor didnt turn over as i tryed to start it . the started couldnt even budge the flywheel. i hate to say it but is this crankwalk? or did a bust a rod? or both? *share your thoughts* Thanks, Jake Jeske
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![]() 1998 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 6 Bolt Swap \ DSMLink V2.5 \ ACT 2100 clutch \ PTE SCM 61 \ Forge MBC@28psi \ VPE O2 Housing \ MR Downpipe \ Thermal R&D Cat-Back \ Tial 38mm WG dumping off O2 \ FMIC w\ in short route \ AFPR setup/walbro 255hp \ PTE 880cc injectors \ Crower Ti retianers \ Crower Springs \ Crower 64414 (stage 3 race) cams \ Ferrea valves \ 3.5 bar MAP \ PLX M-300 Wideband Last edited by 97_3clipse; 02-28-2005 at 11:33 PM. |
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Re: Well it happened...
Damn, sorry to hear that dude. When my transmission was starting to sieze (for the second time) i also heard a "woodpecker" kinda sound shortly before my wheels locked and my motor would not turn over. There was nothing wrong with my motor, just major transaxle failure. Upon opening the tranny, I dicovered that my 4th gear sprocket had a huge chunk missing. So basically the chunk fell down into the transaxle causing it to sieze. I still don't know why my motor would not turn over until I repaced the tranny.
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1993 Eagle Talon ES (4g63NA) 14.6 @ 98 mph (110 octane race fuel) -5 Speed Transmission (From a 4g67) -Stage 2 Crane cams -Ported and polished head -Aggresive valve springs -2.5" Custom made exhaust piping -Custom header -Gutted catalytic converter -Bored 0.5mm -Advanced ignition timing (CAS) aprox. 5 degrees (set @ ~10deg BTDC) -2g valve lifters (Lifter noise returned, now it a true DSM) -K&N w/modified air canister |
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Re: Well it happened...
the wood pecker sound is definatly coming from the motor. but hey thats another possibilty...
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Re: Well it happened...
your rod went SNAP! (or something of that sort) how did you run it out of oil without noticing any leaks or anything? did it burn that much oil or what?
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but you just said it was "bone dry" so you added one and a half quarts of oil. So my question would be this...
Thats all the oil you put in? before you took this trip the day after you noticed it was low did you not add anymore? the filter would hold at least half of what you put in. If thats the case then, no offense, but you got what you had comming to ya. sorry about your bad luck
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Re: Well it happened...
The knocking was probably a rod bearing. They are usually the first to go when there is any oiling problem. Same for the thrust bearing, first to go with a lack of lubrication. So while crankwalk was not the cause of this problem, odds are you got it anyway before the end
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Re: Well it happened...
i had about 2 quarts in there, as of january , then i checked it(bone dry) and i added another quart and a half...
but either way im forced to pull the motor, so now is the perfect oppurtunity to do a 6 bolt swap. now i just need to find a low milage 6 bolt and some friendly dsmers around here to help... looks like my mom is driving me to school from now on...or untill i get my car fixed.
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![]() 1998 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 6 Bolt Swap \ DSMLink V2.5 \ ACT 2100 clutch \ PTE SCM 61 \ Forge MBC@28psi \ VPE O2 Housing \ MR Downpipe \ Thermal R&D Cat-Back \ Tial 38mm WG dumping off O2 \ FMIC w\ in short route \ AFPR setup/walbro 255hp \ PTE 880cc injectors \ Crower Ti retianers \ Crower Springs \ Crower 64414 (stage 3 race) cams \ Ferrea valves \ 3.5 bar MAP \ PLX M-300 Wideband |
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Allright, after some looking around ,about a 6 bolt swap and the time frame i wanted to do it in, all 6 bolt options seemed expensive and i would have to be with out a car for a month. but then i talked to jake (eclipseRST) and this is whats going down.... 6 bolt block (20 thousanths over bore)(deck surfaced)(honed) 6 bolt head (deck surfaced) 6 bolt internals 1G intake manifold brand new 1G valve train new gaskets new timing belt new seals polyurthane motor mounts balance shafts removed ACT 2100lb pressure plate ACT street disk clutch pack ACT throw out bearing Stainless steel oil line resurfaced 6 bolt flywheel *0 miles on the motor completly rebuilt* roughly, it will be done with in 2 weeks
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![]() 1998 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 6 Bolt Swap \ DSMLink V2.5 \ ACT 2100 clutch \ PTE SCM 61 \ Forge MBC@28psi \ VPE O2 Housing \ MR Downpipe \ Thermal R&D Cat-Back \ Tial 38mm WG dumping off O2 \ FMIC w\ in short route \ AFPR setup/walbro 255hp \ PTE 880cc injectors \ Crower Ti retianers \ Crower Springs \ Crower 64414 (stage 3 race) cams \ Ferrea valves \ 3.5 bar MAP \ PLX M-300 Wideband Last edited by EclipseRST; 03-01-2005 at 12:00 AM. Reason: spelling and more added |
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Re: Well it happened...
Anyone else need their car done while I am at it
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Re: Well it happened...
yeah, well move closer to seattle. its over a 1000 to fly you out here.
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Re: Well it happened...
dont worry jake, when i get my turbo dsm this summer ill have plenty of things to ask you to help with, lol. Good thing i only live about 3 hours away from ya.
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Re: Well it happened...
can you turbo an rs or do you have to swap out the motor @ EclipseRST
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Re: Well it happened...
Turbo it... Cant swap out the motor on a realistic budget.
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