are these accurate turbo MAX outputs?

[LouieAWDTSi]

Max output from various turbos
TD05-14B (stock 1st gen) 275-300hp @ 21 psi
TD05-16G (small) 345-365hp @ 22 psi
TD06-16G (large) 365-385hp @ 22 psi
TD06-20G 430-450hp @ 22 psi


came off of vfaq..just wondering if its accurate(hp and boost)..[mostly the 16g's]

[EclipseRST]

Those max outputs are with proper set ups and a well tuned car. I have a TD06H 20g on my RST and I am at 353whp at 18psi. It all depends on what you have supporting it! Now those numbers might also be Crank HP, not positive, but if you were looking for some good power out of a 16g, I would go with the Evo III 16g.

[kjewer1]

Those are decent wheel HP numbers, but that is the max for those turbos roughly. So that is assuming race gas and more like 25 psi. The 20g will do 27-29 psi before it starts to really run out of steam, but 450hp is appropriate (45-47 lbs/min max flow btw). I would assume 25 psi for the 14b and 16Gs, thats where people are running them at that HP level. THere are a shitload ov variables in supporting mods and tuning as Jake mentioned, but those are acceptable ballpark numbers.

[LouieAWDTSi]

thanks guys...

another question that you might be able to give me a approx. answer...

if i get a evo b16g turbo and evo manifold...and then UICP(on stock sidemount)... intake pipe... the free mods....strut bars.....190 fuel pump...550cc injectors.......plus what i have now which isnt much...what would be a safe boost to run and aprox HP amount would it give me.....
(im getting mbc tomorrow for x mas)

basically i dont have tons of money right to drop into the tranny(auto) like torque converter and all that good stuff

[scottsee]

you'll want a safc2, pocket logger and pump rewire kit. safe 15-18psi with sidemount....tuned 20-25psi w/ front mount.

[LouieAWDTSi]

so should i def get a 190 pump or just rewire or both?
and what exactly does safc2 exactly do? and pocket logger?

and with what you said...15-18 psi...what HP range you htink i'd be at?

thanks

[tsipsi20]

I figured i ask on this thread instead of a new one... Lets see if i get some answers... This summer im gonna turn my boost up... i already have a 255 fuel pump... i want to run about 20lbs on my big16g and the front mount will be hooked up. Do I just need injectors... If so, what cc will allow me to safely run this. Also... how much of a difference will Dsm link make in this combo and is it really needed? Thanks alot guys... Merry Christmas

[kjewer1]

With a big/evo 16g, you should have a pump and injectors. I Ran the numbers and its too close for comfort. A 190 will be fine, and you should rewire in either case (at ~15 bucks its like a free fuel system upgrade). AFC lets you adjust your air-fuel ratio, and the logger tells you which way and how much you need to adjust (with some voodoo magic thrown in, can't be too easy). Without injector compensation I heistate to recomend over 550s, but for maximum power on the EVO16g they can fall short slightly. 660s will make a huge dent in your timing however with an AFC type device, but with DSMlink or a Keydiver chip I would go even bigger just because you can. In my case I run 950s with DSMlink becuase its the biggest injector this side of 1600s, and DSMlink runs it like stock. And I'm still at 85% duty cycle, but thats beside the point.

So this is why I say its importnat to decide on how you will tuning the car FIRST. That determines what your fuel system mods would be. With DSMlink or Keydiver chip/AFC do 950s and either pump upgrade (190 or 255/reg). With an AFC only do at least 550s, perhaps 650s, and have fun dealing with excessive timing until you get the ECU over the 2.1 g/rev mark (2g. 1g should be similar). If you dont plan to go for a record on this turbo, 550s will allow a good deal of power on both fuels (pump and race) and not bollix the timing too much. But upgrading twice is no fun either, I must have upgradd injectors 5 or 6 times. With all the money lost there I probably paid for DSMlink

Usually questions like this raise more questions than they answer, but I hope this is helpful enough. If I had to do it all over again, I would do DSMlink and 950s and be done with it, for whatever that's worth.

[LouieAWDTSi]

thanks...it was actaully very helpful....but i do have a couple other ?'s...

1---i might be buying 550cc's used for 100..how do i kno they are 550's and not like stock or something???

2---and she said they have "bench work" done to them..which she said they flow better..no clue what that means???

3---and where do i goto get a fuel pump rewire...reg machanic???...what does it mean...just putting brand new wires on it???(newbie... i am)

4----might be getting a used ported sbr evob16g...how do i check for shafy played...wiggle the turbine?

thanks....sry about the lack of knowledge...learning everyday

[guitarXgeek]

Here's some info on why/how to rewire the pump:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/fuelpumptechtip.htm
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/f...pflowrates.htm
http://www.forcedperformance.net/fprk2g_install.aspx

[LouieAWDTSi]

thanks a lot....i get the concept and you have me directions and all...awesome

can anyone help me with the following:

1---i might be buying 550cc's used for 100..how do i kno they are 550's and not like stock or something???

2---and she said they have "bench work" done to them..which she said they flow better..no clue what that means???

3----might be getting a used ported sbr evob16g(under 1,000 mi)...how do i check for shaft play...wiggle the turbine?

[LouieAWDTSi]

anybody??...

might purchase this stuff this week ...help!?!?!?!?!

[1stGenRocks]

3 yea just take off the intake pipe and try to wiggle the turbine around. it should spin freely but it shouldnt move any other direction

[LouieAWDTSi]

thanks rob for the help...

anyone know these 2 ?'s.........

1---i might be buying 550cc's used for 100..how do i kno they are 550's and not like stock or something....dont they have certain colors...what color is 550cc?

2---and she said they have "bench work" done to them..which she said they flow better..no clue what bench work is??

\she ran 11.9's with a b16g and fmic and all the other goods\

[kjewer1]

1) Look for a part number or size engraved in the body of the injector. All FIC injectors have the size, I believe RC 550s have it as well, and I believe with Densos you have to look up the part number to verify.

2) All they can do is clean and flow test them. I doubt they made them flow much more, but equally important is verify that they flow what they are supposed to.