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Old 09-15-2004, 10:40 PM   #1
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learning new method

So like I said I got hooked up with some very high end t-shirt folk.

One of the artist who does designs for the Good Guys car shows, and places like Andy's Tees has become a friend. Her name is Jeri and her work is outstanding!:

http://www.motorsportsillustrated.com (side note she told me she lurks here from time to time and thinks the work is great). Anyway I have been trying to learn some of the industry leader's methods for production.

In a nut shell:

Line art in Illustrator (Trace your drawing)

Indicate highlights, reflections, shadows in Illustrator.

Render in Photodhop using a channel separation technique.

(Note to Mike. I thought about coming in and fixing the spelling eroors just for you, (photoshop) but then I know if you see something like that you get all worked up, and may actually look a little closer.) hahahaha

Export for film.

Take to printer and get shirts.

get $$$

So I decided to apply the methods to a design I'm doing for the Artic Air-cooled VW Club of Anchorage Alaska (Where I grew up...19 years)

First I did the Nothchback which you have probably seen before and tonight I'm knocking out the Type 1 (that would be the Bug or Beetle for those of you not in the know)



Now this is not done, but I thought I'd share a little. Don't worry I promise not to post all the steps. We'll jump to the end and just talk about it so you guys don't get bored with seein the same old stuff with subtle changes. (I feel your pain) lololol

The pink lines indicate shadows, highlights and reflections. The black lines will be black. No color is indicated in the line stage. This is just my selection base.

Multiple copies and layered versions will be exported to PS so I can use the areas for selections as I render.

Yo Danny!! (Kartoonz) welcome back once again. Keep an eye out on this one. The method is very similar to how you import your linework and render in Corel photo-paint. The big difference is by rendering in channels I create the necessary film separations for shirts at the same time.

More soon.

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Old 09-15-2004, 10:46 PM   #2
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Re: learning new method

oh once again even though I'm doing this almost all digital I try to get some simplification with cool shapes that flow and a little flair so the cars don't look stiff and clip-arty.
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Old 09-15-2004, 10:52 PM   #3
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Re: learning new method

you got my interest
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shyt. another tute i got to bookmark.
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:37 PM   #5
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lolol Chad.

Here's a quick update on the Type 1. I'll work it more tonight then move onto the Bus and the Karmen Ghia.



Here's my rough plan:




Like how I dropped that Notch in there? The overlap won't be as severe. This is more for comp purposes at this point. If I can get the printer to give me the big screens I may space them way out.

The Grey stripes in the back are Empi stripes. VW people will love a little add on like that. I'm trying to get the Empi people to pay me to do their website so this may help a little from a PR point of view.

The mountain in the back is called the Sleeping Lady it's across the inlet from Anchorage. If you've ever lived there you know this mountain.

I'm not set on all the colors yet, but since the rendering will be done digitally I can easily change colors on the fly.

I've already learned a lot on this one. I'm still leaning towards hand ink then digital render in the long run, but we'll see how these end up.

Should be fun.

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Old 09-16-2004, 09:54 PM   #6
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Re: learning new method

looks cool, I'll keep an eye on this thread...
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Old 09-24-2004, 10:18 PM   #7
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Here's a detail on the Bug:



I got the layers sep'd real good. I also went through and added nodes at intersection points and then deleted the mid lines.

Here's the lines that will make up the black line when all is said and done:




Here's the lines that make up the selection areas for PS:




Here's the 2 layers together:




Once in PS you use the magic wand to select the areas, expand your selection by about 2 pixels so they eat the line and then fill. Once this is done eveywhere you get seamless and beautiful stuff....I hope.

I'm new to this but I'm feeling better as I go along. It's not too bad for my first one. It's a lot like setting up a coloring book or paint by numbers. PS will give me the ability to render stylistically and make a cool shirt.

I have to finish all the lineart by Sunday. Tomorrow will be a very busy day. I have a Bus and a Ghia to go.

-Lemorris

p.s. I forgot the door line....hmmm...maybe it's shaved and filled and you gotta general lee it to get in.

Oh on another note I just got real white walls for my car yesterday. $440, but wow!! Sunday afternoon me and a pal are puttin my new ragtop on. sa-weeeeet! http://www.58vw.com
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Re: learning new method

That looks very cool Lemorris. Your good!
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Re: learning new method

Looks almost perfect! Can't wait to see how you make this into a lovely rendered car!
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Re: learning new method

How did I miss this thread?

Oh, and I have a head ache from all your spelling errors. Im sueing you for assault and battery.
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Started the bus:

I'll post when it's done. No prelims.

It's Illustrator. Once again I'm not trying to be exact. I know if it's perfect it won't look artistic so I try to let the lines fall where they want to just like when I ink. Your line carries character, character carries point of view, point of view defines your art.

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Re: learning new method

I don't know how to use illustrator, but all of these look cool so far.
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Here's the lines that will represent the black lines of the Bus.

I''ll do the highlight shadow lines on a separate layer. It's very important to make sure all shapes are closed (no gaps. All lines intersect)



I'm pleased with the split window. There's a lot of little bolts and what not but I was able to simplify it down to some pretty pleasing shapes.

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Re: learning new method

Very nice! Btw, I didn't mean it was technically perfect, I just meant the overall style looked great.
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Re: learning new method

lolol I just realized what you meant. hahahaha I wasn't referencing your comment.

It's that whole using the same word in 2 different ways thing.

I appreciate your comments.


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