Turbocharging LS....gsr or ls tranny?

[DeleriouS]

have a 95 LS teggy. i wanna know if anyone smart can tell me what tranny i should go with when i turbocharge my car. i can either keep the stock tranny, or i can put my JDM b16hyd (gsr)tranny with lightend flywheel and stage 3 clutch. I have heard two different stories. 1. the ls is better because of its wide ratio tranny and you want the for a turbocharger app because of spool. 2. i also heard from another person that i should use the gsr tranny because its close ratio and will help for faster spool up, and most factory turbocharged cars have close ratio trannys. can someone please help me with this???

[civickiller]

whoever told you that you want the ls tranny because it will help the turbo spool is a dumbass. its simply, the goal of the game is to accerlate as fast as you can down teh 1/4 mile. now do you acclerate faster with a longer tranny or a shorter tranny.

it all depends on you too, some people like the ls tranny because they also street drive there race car and on the highway the ls is the best and easiests on gas. with the b16 being too short, some like to choose the gsr tranny because its between the b16 and ls so you get alittle faster accel then the ls and not as bad gas mileage as with the b16.

but also you gotta take into account your engine as well for example, you got a b16 tranny with small size slicks, but your ls engine only revs to 7k, because it revs so low you will go through the short gears faster and top out the tranny. someone calculated a type r tranny with a ls motor, i forget the slicks size, but like the type r topped out at 100mph which isnt a 10 sec run. there are a few caculators you can find on the internet to tell you what you would top out at, you want to be crossing the finish line at the top of 4th gear

[got v-tec?]

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it depends on how much hp you have. if you have around 300whp or less id go w/ the b16. 300 to 700 gsr. ls tranny has to long of gears unless you have alot of power, then some prefer the ls to make sure the power goes to the ground.
i have a b16hydro w/33,000 fresh rebuild w/ls 5th gear and phantom lsd for sale if interested..

[forcefanajd]

Originally Posted by got v-tec?

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it depends on how much hp you have. if you have around 300whp or less id go w/ the b16. 300 to 700 gsr. ls tranny has to long of gears unless you have alot of power, then some prefer the ls to make sure the power goes to the ground.
i have a b16hydro w/33,000 fresh rebuild w/ls 5th gear and phantom lsd for sale if interested..

LOL personally i liked the LS tranny....my buddy has a 95 civic wit a ls turbo swap.....gears are nice in the ls...like he said tho its all in how you like it to feel

[Kven]

well why not integrate them? ive heard of people putting ls gears in b16 transmissions, like the 3rd and 5th gear, or something like that.

[DeleriouS]

Originally Posted by got v-tec?

^ www.autocrossing.com
i have a b16hydro w/33,000 fresh rebuild w/ls 5th gear and phantom lsd for sale if interested..

i am actually interested in the LSD...how much are you willing to sell it for? thanks

[DeleriouS]

Originally Posted by Kven

well why not integrate them? ive heard of people putting ls gears in b16 transmissions, like the 3rd and 5th gear, or something like that.

ya that is a good idea, i think i will do that...how hard would that be?

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by DeleriouS

ya that is a good idea, i think i will do that...how hard would that be?

Don't bother! Too much work. Just grab the LS tranny. IF you race someone that has the gsr trans, you'll definitely beat him for sure if you both have the same set up. You stay in a gear longer and the turbo keeps pullin you while the other guy would switch his gears already. Ls has that advantage over the gsr trans.

[DeleriouS]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

Don't bother! Too much work. Just grab the LS tranny. IF you race someone that has the gsr trans, you'll definitely beat him for sure if you both have the same set up. You stay in a gear longer and the turbo keeps pullin you while the other guy would switch his gears already. Ls has that advantage over the gsr trans.

thats what i have been thinking...i think i am just going to instal the clutch and the flywheel on the ls tranny

[mellowboy]

yO where in illinois are you from?

[tran_nsx]

switching trannys for an acute advantage is not worth the money, unless ur actually using it to race where every little milli sec counts. if u still want to waste ur money anyways, go with the gsr tranny, it will accelerate a tad bit quicker than the ls.

[boosted331]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

Don't bother! Too much work. Just grab the LS tranny. IF you race someone that has the gsr trans, you'll definitely beat him for sure if you both have the same set up. You stay in a gear longer and the turbo keeps pullin you while the other guy would switch his gears already. Ls has that advantage over the gsr trans.

God, this is the most retarded internet honda myth that has ever been spread. A numerically higher gear means that the torque being produced by the motor is being multiplied at a greater rate than if you had a numerically lower gear. Would you race somebody from a 10 MPH roll from 4th gear, because you can stay in the gear longer and the turbo keeps pulling longer and the other guy would switch gears already? No, because that's god damn retarded thinking, and is just plain wrong.

[civickiller]

i feel you boosted, stupid myths like that. they all say the same thing, the turbo will spool and create power, i wonder who started this myth.

it dont matter if a car is turboed or not, look at the dyno of the engine. its power band is almost like a regualr na car, dont look at it in terms of the turbo. all you gotta do is think of a stock engine, an ls engine. now which one would acclerate faster, one with a gsr trans, or one with an ls trans. the gsr trans will go faster and thats the one you want to use.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by civickiller

i feel you boosted, stupid myths like that. they all say the same thing, the turbo will spool and create power, i wonder who started this myth.
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DID I SAY IT'LL HELP SPOOL ??!! NO! I said it'll keep on pulling since hes stayin the same gear MEANING THE TURBO WILL CONTINUTE TO SPOOL! IT makes sense if you think about. Dude seriously i never disrespected you ever and now your goin on sayin that i'm stupid?

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by boosted331

No, because that's god damn retarded thinking, and is just plain wrong.

BOOST OR NO BOOST! The longer gears are still there. For an example. I raced my boy who has a gsr motor in his civic while i had my b16a in my rex at the time. I had the J1 trans. Anyways we were head to head then when i hit third gear he still on his 2nd then he switched then he pulled on me! Thats why i said he'll get that advantage when he has a longer geared tranny u stupid fuck. I didn't say it'll help spool. LS tranny is cheaper anyways so i'd rather get that. I hate ppl goin on dissing ppl thinkin they're mr. know it all callin them stupid for no reason. If somebody made a mistake...then correct them. Why insult? I oughta smack with you freight train for get'n bold wit me sOn!