How much would u have to put intoa 300tt to beat my Grandfather 03' c5?

Kuntry_Boi06 · #1 10-15-2004, 02:31 PM

just wonder in how much it would take to make a 300ztt to beat my grandfathers 03' c5?Jus wonderin cuz he keeps talkin bout vipers bein so gay cuz there v10 and jus alil faster or what ever than a vette(pisses me off).I wanna jus beat him with a v6 make me so happy any posts appreciated!

Hodo · #2 10-15-2004, 02:43 PM

Well to start read the destroing the world in your Z32. That will help greatly. But in a nut shell you will need fuel injectors, water injection, intake, exhaust, exhaust headers, down pipes, high flow cats, and tires and some minor suspension work, oh and ECU reprogram. These few things should get your over the 400HP mark and would at least make it a close fun race that you should win. After all a Z32TT weighs more than C5 Vette. You will have to over come this with Torque and HP to weight ratios.

Zgringo · #3 10-15-2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuntry_Boi06

just wonder in how much it would take to make a 300ztt to beat my grandfathers 03' c5?Jus wonderin cuz he keeps talkin bout vipers bein so gay cuz there v10 and jus alil faster or what ever than a vette(pisses me off).I wanna jus beat him with a v6 make me so happy any posts appreciated!

Jusy be glad I'm not your Grandpa. Not only would I burn you, I'd kick your ass. You can't teach a old dog new tricks. If you want to beat your Grandpa you'd better getup early and bring a big lunch. First of all you need to learn how to build a car up to go fast. I suggest you go ask your Grandpa that same question, and maybe, just maybe he might help you. but if you go to him with your (pisses me off) attitude he most likely won't do you shit. JK

Broke_as_**** · #4 10-15-2004, 08:45 PM

The gringo's feelings aside, a stage three Z with a set of downpipes should be able to make things interesting. May not win outright but you should be able to hold your own.

Also I would agree with the old man about the Vipers. They're not that much quicker than a vette, in a straight line they'll take a C5 down but on road courses Vettes and Vipers routinely spar with Porsches and even lower end Ferraris (if there is such a thing) and the Vettes do very well for themselves. Especially since they cost about half as much as any of those other cars.

Zgringo · #5 10-15-2004, 09:22 PM

Speaking of Porsche's I've got a killer post

Zgringo · #6 10-15-2004, 10:15 PM

On a more serious note like Broke says, if you take it to stage III and drop a NA rearend in it I think send him back to his rock'in chair. And you'll have a pretty quick car.

JCCR · #7 10-15-2004, 10:36 PM

i tough a stage III Z32TT would be able to take down a c5 easily since the c5 makes like 350hp to the fly.

Broke_as_**** · #8 10-15-2004, 11:13 PM

And a Stage 3 is only making about 400 at flywheel. Its closer than it would seem and the Vette doesn't have to deal with turbo lag, the real problem that exists in the mostly stock Stage 3 Z32 TT. Thats why I included the downpipes because they'll help more than just about any other easy bolt on. Anyway, it would be a good race I would think. Especially if you had the NA rearend like Zgringo mentitioned. That increases the final drive ratio quite a bit and is probably the most effective mod you can do to the Z32 as far as acceleration goes.. Of course you'll "only" be able to do about 175 instead of 190 but hey...

k3smostwanted · #9 10-16-2004, 03:36 AM

175 instead of 190???? your joking right? lol. but seriously i cant even find anywhere to get my z to 140 and thats if there is no cops but i guess if your doing a 175 then i dont think they would have much chance catching you anyways.

Broke_as_**** · #10 10-16-2004, 03:49 AM

If it was only one police car it would be no issue. Downshift a notch or two and watch the flashing lights vanish into your rearview mirror. But its not just the one car. Its two. Or five. Or ten. And the radio network. And all the other police departments. And helicopters. You may out gun them but they by far out man you. Anyway, you have to remember though, a modded TT with an NA rear end get up to 175 pretty damn quick.

k3smostwanted · #11 10-16-2004, 03:59 AM

yeah i suppose. you could always make a run for the border. ill meet zgringo south of the border. but i guess all that aint worth it for a speeding ticket. eh..dreams are fun.

does anybody know someone with a TT set-up with a n/a differential with some actual statistics showing the difference? im sure there is someway to calculate it out but thats too much math. maybe i will ask my calculus teacher.

Zgringo · #12 10-16-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by k3smostwanted

yeah i suppose. you could always make a run for the border. ill meet zgringo south of the border. but i guess all that aint worth it for a speeding ticket. eh..dreams are fun.

does anybody know someone with a TT set-up with a n/a differential with some actual statistics showing the difference? im sure there is someway to calculate it out but thats too much math. maybe i will ask my calculus teacher.

We have 2 places around here we (a select few) can run any speed that turns you on, and if you happen to get stopped by a camino (Hwy.Patrol) just giv'em 50 peso's and be on your way. I passed a Vette flat out one day but I don't know how fast we were going, my speedo was buried to the end.
K3 download the program on the "Stuff for free" thread" and you'll be able to figure out whatever you want.

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ttfox88 · #13 10-16-2004, 08:10 PM

what do you mean by 175 instead of 190? whAt the NA rear end is quicker but it wont go as fast as the slower TT rear end?

Broke_as_**** · #14 10-16-2004, 08:41 PM

Okay, since you don't have a real good concept of gear ratios apparently, I'll keep it simple:

The higher gearing you have, the higher top end speed you get but the slower acceleration you'll have.

The lower gearing is just the opposite.

For example: You accelerate alot faster in 1st gear than you do in 5th gear. But 1st gear will only get you to about 35mph and then the engine redlines and won't rev any higher,thus you can't go any faster in 1st gear. So to go faster we add higher ratio gears. So 5th gear will get you to about 175mph (190mph with the TT rearend) at redline but you aren't able to accelerate as fast.

The TT rear end has 3.692 gears in it, so it will have higher top end than the lower geared 4.083 NA rear end. But since the NA is lower, it will accelerate faster.

Here is a good place to play around with gear ratios to see their effect on top speeds.

http://www.geocities.com/z_design_st..._300zx_tt.html

longlivetheZ · #15 10-18-2004, 09:52 PM

I wouldn't think it'd take THAT much to get the Z32TT down into the C5s realm. The only major thing the Z32 has to contend with is weight. If you can shed a bunch of weight and get to Stage III, you'd probably pull it off...I dunno.

Hadn't really thought about the rear end swap before. Makes me wonder if the new IRS is part of the reason the newer mustang Cobras are so fast in a straight line...maybe they changed out the gearing. Be funny if it'd only go 110 or some shit.

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