Is 1.4g possible is a sedan?????????????

[SHO411]

Ok I was reading on the upcoming M5 cuz this is my skyline of europe, I love these cars, it is a V10, 6speed manumatic (or something in those parameters), I mean the tranny receives like 12.5 million comands per second and some othershit, I mean this thing comes with two clutch discs stock, shuts 1/2 it's cylinders to conserve fuel and tons of other shit till I was unable to fully understand how the tranny works. I know of Manumatic trannies but the one in the M5 is something out there, talk about complicated.
Ok we all know how good BMW is at building cars, especially that M div of theres, but, at the bottom of the column, they said this thing can handle at 1.4g, now correct me if I'm wrong, but a couple of pages after they show the Enzo, Carrera GT, and Ford GT all handling at .9s, now comeon, I think if I read correctly the F1 cars are capable of like 1.5gs and these are the most advanced and dominant race cars, they do the 1/4m in 9sec even if they have high reving eninges. Seriously you can't tell me that an M5 can match that (I thought it was a typo).
I told my computer gradguate brother of mine that it was impossible, and he says you never know. His basis is that he watched a video of Paradymes (what ever that means), but basically some scientist built a car that had 50Hp and was able to accel to 60moh in 5.0 sec, and weighed over 1500lbs. Basically he says the guys when they showed experienced car techs, they all said it was impossible to build so they had to do it by themselves, and it worked. Now I know there are some geniuses out there, and I am sure with an unlimited budget you can make miracles, but I bet a million bucks those miracles will not be used in an 80K sedan, if they could do that, as usual the first ppl to try this will be Cart and other race leagues not a mass production company.
What do you guys think, TYPING ERROR or CAN BE DONE???????????????

[BaDmAn]

It can be done, but I dont doubt it to be a typo. A guy read somewhere that the RX8 does stock 13 seconds in the 1/4 and I read on the rx8 forums it does 14.5? I don't care enough to find out so yeah. From what I've read compared to what he said(the guy I worked with) there must of been some sort of misunderstanding somewhere or he was *sensored* up mazda's Rx8

[BaDmAn]

ALSO the 1.4g could just be on take off and it could just die down, but who knows other than the people who've tested it and the others whom have read any of the results. I am no expert so please excuse my stupidity

[BaDmAn]

ALSO lol I've said before that the S600 of the UK(i dont know about US) has like 800 torque and I cant remember how much HP, and the cl66 is it?? the amg one has like 700 plus torque and hp around that area. doesnt mean it will take out a boneville car running the same amount of power will it?(dont quote my numbers on the CL amg )

[SHO411]

I think they were talking of lateral gs, which like I said is next to impossible for an 80K sedan that is street legal, most cars that are capable of this are in the 300K plus range and you'll never see next to you on your way to work. Maybe if they were talking of take off, and even this is impossible if you ask me, the top fuel drag cars have around 4gs on take off, but they run on around 5-8000hp.
I don't think it is possible, unless they dropped it off a cliff or shoved P500/35/19ZR tires, then maybe, but last I checked, the widest street legal wheels were 345s.

[BaDmAn]

Im no expert so I'll take your word for it heheh. I hope I dont get flamed for this although I kinda asked for it.

[BaDmAn]

If you dont mind could you post up a link on the m5 or did you read about it in a mag?

[SHO411]

read on next months issue. Should hit the stands soon if not already.

[BaDmAn]

Next months issue of car and driver or what?

[Suislide]

what does this have to do with S-Chassis?

i'll leave it cause i have no idea where to move it, but please try to post threads in the appropriate related forum.

[BaDmAn]

Originally Posted by Suislide

what does this have to do with S-Chassis?

i'll leave it cause i have no idea where to move it, but please try to post threads in the appropriate related forum.

Sowwy

[SHO411]

No dis Suis, I just thought it was bull even if it has nothing to do with 240s', Does anyone know how many Gs the 240 is capable, stock and modified??? I don't want to sound like an idiot, cuz you know you have to respect the Germans and their engineering, especially BMW and the M division, But do you think an M5 can out handle a S14 with some decent suspension upgrades??????????????
The 240 has to be modified cuz the M5 already comes with an 80K price tag, so they aren't in the same class even if the 240 is a sports car, and M5 is a sedan.
I like M5s' but I think a good suspension setup and the 240 will out handle the M3 and M5, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?????????????

ps: you don't see to many German cars in drift contests, I think their main downfall is their Weight.

[SR20DETpower]

welp heres my take on this...

no fucking way a m5 sedan BMW autobahn cruiser can withstand 1.4 lateral g's on a 200foot diameter skidpad....

see the lat g ratings we see on our cars, like .88 for 240sx, is how many g's it can withstand constantly going around the same circle. its not so much of a test to see how hard u can make the car turn, its more of a test to see what mph u can hold it at. Just because they say it does .88 doesn't mean it can't put a greater force on your car or body.

The IRL cars are rated at 1.4g constant....which is fucking GOOD, insanely good...as in something most of us have never felt. HOWEVER, I use IRL cars to make my point for a good reason, one day I was watching a IRL race and they had those on screen graphics up, that show if they are using throttle, RPM's, speed etc..... this one also had lateral g's...which were exceeding 3 lateral g's... yes thats 3 g's. Some of the reasons why they are so much higher then what they rate its skidpad specification is... speed(the higher your speed the easier it is to induce higher G's), banking of track, tire is probably hotter, aerodynamics are taking more of an effect, but the greatest reason is that this is not a sustained manuever like a skidpad test is. They run the car at the absolute limit right through the middle of the corner, where the brakes and acceleration are not using as much of the tires grip.. this allows them to throw the car into the corner REALLY hard but by the time it reaches its maximum grip and is ready to plow through the grandstands, the turn straightens out into the back stretch or what have you... they couldn't keep up that 3 g's constantly, so thats not its skidpad rating........

maybe BMW has seen the new car have a load of 1.4 g's through a hard corner and a computer recorded that, sort of like a r34 gtr can...

come on lets get serious here, a IRL car says 1.4 lat g's... that is a purpose built race chassis out of strong materials that is about 4x lighter then a M5..... lets say M5 weighs 2 tons, a IRL car weighs in at around a half a ton... a IRL car is using much harder suspension springs and dampening, not to mention the expensive gummy slicks they use, while the BMW is forced to comply with the rich old people who want a smooth fast ride..lets face it u don't see many 20 year olds driving $85,000 cars, and the DOT approved tires the BMW must use that also work in wet conditions.

I would say that a BMW m5 getting a constant 1.4 lateral G skidpad rating, when u compare to something that can actually do 1.4 g's sustained..., is about 99.9% impossible

[SHO411]

Like I said, it is impossible, in that same issue of Motor trend, they recorded the Enzo at .96, since when is an M5 going to out handle a ferrari sports car........Ummmmmmmm..........................NEVE R.
Someone must have been nursing a hangover, cuz that was a typo.

[logik23]

Well a 350Z with new tires and sway bars can go over 1g so it's not cause its a ferrari that it can't be beat. But 1.4 is impossible lol