-
Grand Future Air Dried Beef Dog Food

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef
Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Engineering/ Technical
Register FAQ Community
Engineering/ Technical Ask technical questions about cars. Do you know how a car engine works?
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-06-2003, 04:23 PM
dtmamg dtmamg is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Question B20 Stroker?

Anybody ever built a B20 stroker? I'm looking to get a new car soon, and up until recently I was going to get something like a 5.0 liter Mustang or a LT1/LS1 F-body. Due to insurance reasons, however, there's no way I'd be able to keep either of these on the road (just got 2 tickets for Unsafe Start/Improper U-turn doing donuts in a friends 328i). So now I'm looking to get a Civic hatchback, probably an Hx or Cx (doesn't get much cheaper to insure than that) and dropping in a fully built naturally aspirated B series. Just wanted to know if anyone had ever stroked a B20 and what rod length did you use as well as where did you get the crank/rods for it? I'm also considering throwing a VTEC head on it while I'm building it.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-06-2003, 04:28 PM
mastarolla mastarolla is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mastarolla
stroked b20

A B20 block is pretty much a stroked version of the B18. I think its just a larger bore or something like that which nets the extra .2 liter.

If you want a quick motor...build a turbo B20 with like a b16 or GSR head. Just dont rev it too high.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-06-2003, 04:39 PM
dtmamg dtmamg is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Stroking a motor involves using a shorter rod length and increasing the length of the crankshaft throws so that the piston travels farther, increasing the displacement. I realize that to have a larger displacement on a B-series (2.0 vs. 1.8), the cylinder bore would have to be larger, but I'm looking to see if anyone has stroked a B20. I was thinking about going with a turbocharged setup for a while, but I've decided to stay naturally aspirated for now for simplicity.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-06-2003, 04:46 PM
mastarolla mastarolla is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mastarolla
b20

ive never heard of anyone stroking a 2.0 and im not sure how the all motor b20 performs. Lots of torque...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-06-2003, 04:54 PM
dtmamg dtmamg is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yeah, basically what I'm looking to build is a B-series to drop in a Civic hatchback that'll put well over 200 ft-lbs to wheels throughout much of the powerband, naturally aspirated on 93 octane gas. It might take a lot more time and effort than going with a supercharger or a turbocharger, but thats not what I'm looking to do.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-06-2003, 05:21 PM
mastarolla mastarolla is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mastarolla
b20

yea naturally aspirated is more challenging in my opinion than just bolting on a turbo and goin...i think its a lot more fun too.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-06-2003, 09:53 PM
dtmamg dtmamg is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yeah, I've seen some kits that have it end up with like a 2.2 liter displacement, which is pretty sick and most likely makes a lot of torque.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-07-2003, 08:44 AM
mellowboy's Avatar
mellowboy mellowboy is offline
Amy dragged me here...
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 7,537
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to mellowboy
Thats a good question actually. I dont know if they have kits for it but i think you can get 84.5 mm sleeves which makes it a 2.2.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-07-2003, 12:57 PM
disbboi disbboi is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 34
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
crower makes 2.2 liter stroker kit. the last time i checked i think its a little over $2000. i've seen stroked b16 to 1.8 liter and it ran great, but i don't know about a 2.2 liter tho.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-07-2003, 04:28 PM
whtteg's Avatar
whtteg whtteg is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 3,974
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to whtteg
The stroker kit for the b18b1 will work in the b20,all you need is larger pistons b/c the bore in the b20 is bigger than the b18b1. The two motors are the same, the b20 is a b18b1 with a bigger bore. The two motors use the same crank and rods.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-07-2003, 08:17 PM
dtmamg dtmamg is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the info. You don't happen to know what results people have seen from the Crower B18 stroker kit? Just looking for a general idea of how much power it'd be making.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-07-2003, 10:07 PM
mastarolla mastarolla is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mastarolla
b20 stroked

A B20 Vtec build is known for the torque you get...id almost be scared to see what a turbo b20 stroked would do.

Is it the torque youre after because it would probably be cheaper going the H22 route
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-07-2003, 10:13 PM
whtteg's Avatar
whtteg whtteg is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 3,974
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to whtteg
Quote:
Originally posted by dtmamg
Thanks for the info. You don't happen to know what results people have seen from the Crower B18 stroker kit? Just looking for a general idea of how much power it'd be making.
Sorry I have seen no info on results and I don't know of anybody who has it, I think it is b/c the r/s ratio will be even worse than the stock 1.54 , but i dunno. If you can get a hold of a b20 then sleeve it and boost around 20-25psi you would have a monster
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-08-2003, 11:20 PM
disbboi disbboi is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 34
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
sorry i dont know the results for a 2.2 stroker, but i saw a 2 liter gsr that make 240hp and 173tq at the wheels naturally aspirated, but it was fully built. so imma guessing you should make more for a 2.2 liter. like mastarolla said it would probably be cheaper if you got a h22.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-09-2003, 12:39 AM
dtmamg dtmamg is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yeah, the main reason I wasn't looking to put a H22 in was because of the increased weight. I wanted to have a car that would still be decent through the turns. Kind of an all-around autocross/drag-strip car.
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Engineering/ Technical


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:14 PM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts