Kerry honored by communist in Vietnam!

[erricer]

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/st...40531140357545

[Pick]

Go figure. We've already had one democratic candidate take communist money, its just funny that they publicly endorsed him this time.

[YogsVR4]

Communist Kerry? Somehow I don't think so. He likes spending everyone elses money. Telling other people what they can and cannot do.....

Wait a minute!!

[2strokebloke]

In the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), a photograph of John Kerry hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war activists who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War.

Problem number one, the south was already losing, problem number two, Nixon (not Kerry, you'll note) had decided on "vietnamization" - that is handing the war that we should never have gotten involved in back over to the South Vietnamese, who should have been fighting it by themselves in the first place - which was widespread opinion in the United States, don't blame him for doing what people wanted.
Most importantly, supporting the end of of involvement in a war doesn't necessarily mean you want one side or another to win. While the communists might place value on the actions of war protesters for helping them win the south - I think we all know about communists and the effects their public relations teams have on reality and history.

[carrrnuttt]

They (Bush campaign) must be getting desperate.

Either that, or there is some very concerned citizens, who are scared to back up their words.

Here's the registration info on the two domains you have linked to in the past week:

www.scaryjohnkerrry.com

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SCARYJOHNKERRY.COM
Created on: 26-Mar-04
Expires on: 26-Mar-05
Last Updated on: 25-May-04

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599
Technical Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599

Domain servers in listed order:
NS3.POWWEB.COM
NS2.POWWEB.COM


And the other: www.wintersoldier.com

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: WINTERSOLDIER.COM
Created on: 12-Feb-04
Expires on: 12-Feb-06
Last Updated on: 12-Feb-04

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599
Technical Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599

Domain servers in listed order:
PARK15.SECURESERVER.NET
PARK16.SECURESERVER.NET

Here's some info on the DomainsbyProxy.com:
http://domainsbyproxy.com/getDBP.aspx?

- Your domain is registered in the name of Domains By Proxy -- so our contact information is made public -- not yours.

- You retain the FULL BENEFITS of domain registration. You can: cancel, sell, renew or transfer your domain; set-up the name servers for, and resolve disputes involving, your domain.

- We create a private email address for your domain.You tell us to forward, not forward, or filter messages for spam before forwarding.

- We protect your identity and only reveal it in special situations.

Tell you what, THIS is a real, concerned citizen, not a campaign-backed slander site:
http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/

Here's their registration info:

Registrant:
Steven Hawley
PO Box 1991
Issaquah, Washington 98027
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: IMPEACH-BUSH-NOW.COM
Created on: 18-Mar-03
Expires on: 18-Mar-05
Last Updated on: 22-Apr-04

Administrative Contact:
Hawley, Steven [email protected]
PO Box 1991
Issaquah, Washington 98027
United States
(425) 391-2723 Fax -- (208) 248-4026
Technical Contact:
Hawley, Steven [email protected]
PO Box 1991
Issaquah, Washington 98027
United States
(425) 391-2723 Fax -- (208) 248-4026

Domain servers in listed order:
WSC1.JOMAX.NET
WSC2.JOMAX.NET


How do I know all this? Well, for one, my brother-in-law works for the Republican Campaign fundraising effort here in AZ (told you my family is conservative). Their single office alone accumulates about 80,000-dollars on the average daily.

[carrrnuttt]

Oh wait, that was the registration info for impeach-bush-now.com I gave.

Here's the info on the .org site:

Domain ID: D91395896-LROR
Domain Name:IMPEACH-BUSH-NOW.ORG
Created On:21-Oct-2002 02:02:56 UTC
Last Updated On:14-Dec-2003 13:08:51 UTC
Expiration Date:21-Oct-2004 02:02:56 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R34-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID: DOTR-00569528
Registrant Name:Zachary Cravens
Registrant Organization:National Campaign to Impeach Bush et al.
Registrant Street1:506 South Fourth Street
Registrant Street2:Apt. #101
Registrant City:Champaign
Registrant State/Province:IL
Registrant Postal Code:61820
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2173441020
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID: DOTC-02022630
Admin Name:Elisabeth Rickman
Admin Organization:National Campaign to Impeach Bush et al.
Admin Street1:3015 Grove Street
Admin Street2:Apt. #2
Admin City: Denver
Admin State/Province:CO
Admin Postal Code:80211
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.3034551757
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID: DOTC-02022631
Tech Name:Elisabeth Rickman
Tech Organization:National Campaign to Impeach Bush et al.
Tech Street1:3015 Grove Street
Tech Street2:Apt. #2
Tech City: Denver
Tech State/Province:CO
Tech Postal Code:80211
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.3034551757
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS1.DNSWIZARDS.COM
Name Server:NS2.DNSWIZARDS.COM

[taranaki]

Do you have any more credible links to this,or are we just expected to believe some wacko with a website?Any damn fool can post claims on the net,show us some credible sources and I'll take it seriously.

[lazysmurff]

so what if the communists endorse him. whuptie shit.

all i have to say is when Kerry said "there are several world leaders who want me to win" all the conservatives said "who cares what te rest of the world thinks, this is an american election"

so really, who cares what the rest of the world thinks...this is an american election

not to mention, american has to get over this irrational fear of communism anyway

[thegladhatter]

In an exclusive interview yesterday with NBC's Tim Russert, Saddam Hussein claimed that he would have "no problem" with a Democratic ticket that included John Kerry as president and Ted Kennedy as vice president. The reason, he said, is that "they're anti-war, pro-economic growth, pro-choice-and they've both killed people and left them for , which in my opinion is the best gauge of leadership skills."

Saddam Hussein explained in the interview that "although Kerry is stale and hackneyed, he has the best chance of beating Bush, given the leftward slant of the other contenders and the current American mood. Also, I have to assume that, as a Vietnam vet, he killed a bunch of and left at least a few of them for . Those aint Saddam Hussein numbers, but it's a start."

As for the surprising choice of Ted Kennedy as a VP, Saddam became even more animated. "Well, lets face it, the Kennedys are American royalty," he said, "not only would Kennedy secure the liberal base and bring out the blue-blood vote, his name evokes great American memories, and he may also help to increase African American participation in the election."

This lead to an interesting exchange between Russert and Hussein.

Russert: But what about Chappaquiddick?

Hussein: You're acting like that's a negative. Not only did Ted kill some chick during a drunken bender, he left her for , never apologized, and used his connections to get out of trouble. Even as a ruthless dictator, even I have to say that's some bad-ass ****. And then there's the women, and the drinking, and the . . .

Russert: Wait. Are you saying that having killed people is a good quality for a president?

Hussein: Yes, of course. I mean, what else is there really?

Russert: So Kerry's probably a shoe in, right? But I'm curious about . .

Hussein: Well not exactly, I mean Kerry probably killed people, but it was a war so the cold-blooded-ness is at a different level. I mean lets face it: there's a difference between leaving some chick for after DUI accident, and mowing down Charlie while he's shooting at you. But even given that, I have to assume that . . .

Russert: . . . but what about Sharpton? What about Sharpton? Do you want him to be president? He had a least one person killed, a Hasidic Jew no less-and haven't you heard of Freddy's Fashion Mart? His actions lead to the of seven people there. Certainly that must resonate with you . . . [cross talk]

Hussein: . . . aha! Here's where you think "ruthless" dictator means "idiotic" dictator! Sharpton is completely unelectable. He hasn't even allied with the wider left-even Jesse Jackson did that in '84. But that notwithstanding, I have to admire the way he whips up a mob, has people killed, and is still treated as a viable Democratic candidate by the media . . .

Russert: Not only that, he fraudulently destroyed the lives of at least two other people---policemen no less. That must count for something in the dictator's political handbook, right? You're being hypocritical . . .

[cross talk]

Hussein: Ok, I see your point. The dictator in me says that Sharpton is the man, but the politician in me knows that he stands no chance of being elected. America is a racist: it would never elect a black er over a white one. So no, I cannot endorse Sharpton for President, although I definitely give him "props."

Russert: What about recent drop-out Clark? He is a four-star general who fought in Vietnam.

Hussein: Yeah, I know, but he's really weird.

Russert: Indeed.

Although Saddam admitted that either Dean or Kucinich presidency would be "personally advantageous" for him, he said that he "just couldn't bring himself to endorse them," adding that "they're probably even vegetarians."

Pollster John Zogby believes that there is actually a good chance that Kerry might select Kennedy as his running mate. "According to our numbers, Kerry is not polling well with bubble-headed lushes, ugly womanizers, or fatuous windbags; the selection of Kennedy might turn those numbers around."

John Kerry's office did not return phone calls when asked for comment.

[YogsVR4]

Originally Posted by taranaki

Do you have any more credible links to this,or are we just expected to believe some wacko with a website?Any damn fool can post claims on the net,show us some credible sources and I'll take it seriously.

The same type of sites are often cited to critisize Bush, so they are all taken for what they are - comedic value.

[CarSuperfreak]

I think that the biggest issue here is not what Communism really is or what the technicalities are, but the effect that this will have on a vast majority of 'dumb americans'. The biggest problem here will be, that (insert large number here)% of americans will see "Kerry honored by Communist" and will immediatly jump to, Therefore, Kerry = bad. Im not saying anything one way or another on the issue here (I'm quite the republican), but Im just saying that it doesnt matter so much what the technicalities are, I'm just suprised that Kerry and Communism in the same sentence was made so public

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by YogsVR4

The same type of sites are often cited to critisize Bush, so they are all taken for what they are - comedic value.

This is why I was pointing out the glaring differences between the anti-Kerry/anti-Bush sites above. The two anti-Kerry sites (and more, in fact, I've discovered), are all anonymous, unbacked sites, while the anti-Bush site has the actual contact number of the private individual who started it.

Now which one lends more credibility to itself?

Speaking of which, it's interesting that the proxy that was used to create all the Kerry-slander sites is domainsbyproxy.com here, in AZ - home of one of the Bush campaign's biggest fundraising companies - to the tune of 80K a day.

Oh, did I mention that all the slander sites were created within this past year - with www.scaryjohnkerry.com being the latest, at March 26th? How far past the election do you think the website gets updates?

Although the www.impeach-bush-now.com entity is admittedly new, www.impeach-bush-now.org has been around since 2002.

[YogsVR4]

You're just splitting hairs. The fact is the anti-whoever people are of the same mold.

Of course the anti-Kerry sites are new. He's jumped to the national scene just recently. How many anti-Bush sites were there prior to 2000? Few and far between.

None of the sites have any credibility. The only reason people give them any is because the sites are saying what the reader wants to hear.

[carrrnuttt]

And what's credible to you? Whitehouse.org?

[YogsVR4]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

And what's credible to you? Whitehouse.org?

Yeah - thats what I think Good grief, its become more clear that you are so blinded by your hatred for Bush, that you are losing all semblance of your claimed impartiality.