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Dodge Daytona hop up ideas?
Hey everybody, I'm new here. I own a 77 dodge Power Wagon, but am looking at buying a 89 Dodge Daytona ES with the 2.5L turbo. Now I know this is a good engine with lots of power from the factory, but I was wonderin if someone could give me a list of parts or mods for more power. Also include price and where I can find the item please.
Thanks to everybody that replies. And heres a pic of my dodge if anybody is interested. |
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Well the first thing I would do is swap the head from your 2.5L with a 2.2L for more power. You will also want to find and intercooler from a Turbo II motor. There are plenty of mods but I need to know if you plan to stick with the 2.5L.
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Why? whats the matter with the 2.5? I know you can't rev it as high, but what else? I didn't buy the car, I was looking at it because its for sale and I was wondering if it is a good car to modify. So should I find one with a 2.2L? I'm not really sure yet, but I'm also looking at a 1973 Duster I might want to buy instead. I got the perfect engine built for it sitting in my garage, but I wouldn't mind the fuel economy of a 4 banger for a change. I'm used to getting around 5 MPG, so with 20+ that would be heaven for me. LOL
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I know the feeling, I went from a Jeep to my GTC with the Turbo II. I got an average of around 25 - 30MPG with the GTC. You could expect around the same. That is unless I decided to get happy with the gas.
As for the 2.5L engine, there is nothing wrong with it. The engine you have in that Daytona is a called the Turbo I. It has a 2.5L I4 with a non intercooled Garrett T3 turbo. It produces 150HP and 200 ft/lbs of torque. The 2.2L was an I4 as well except it had an intercooled Garrett T3 and produced around "a said" 174HP and 200 ft/lbs of torque. I have found differently though. Just check my sig for info on that of the LeBaron info thread in this forum. The 2.5L is the same block as the 2.2L. The onjly differece is the head. They are both great engines to modify. If you do plan to modify it you will want to get your hands on either the A-555 or A568 tranaxle. Lert me know what you plan to do and I can load you down with info on modding your Daytona. |
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So I need a head from a older 2.2? Like 84-86? Are the 2.2 heads less restrictive? And also, if you know, could you tell me the stock valve sizes please.
I passed up a deal for a 86 Chrysler Laser Turbo 1, are those years better than 89-90? What is an A-555 or A-568 tranaxle? |
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1. You will want the 2.2L head off of a Turbo II engine. Best would be to find one from 88-89. You can get them off any Chrysler, Plymouth, or Dodge with the Turbo II.
2. I am not sure of the valve sizes. I have never machined my heads. I'll ask around for you though. 3. The Laser with the Turbo 1 is mechanically identical to the Daytona you are looking at. An 88-90 would be better years. If you can find them. 4. The A-555 and A-568 are two different manual transaxles. They are racing transmissions that came stock on any Turbo II "A-555" or Turbo VI "A-568" car from Chrysler. They were designed by Chrysler and built by Getrag of Germany. They are heavy duty and reinforced. |
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1. Cool, I can get one from a junkyard then
2. Thanks 3. OK 4. So those tranny's will drop right in if I find one? Axles too? Thanks again |
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1. Yes, but you take a chance of getting a bad head. Who knows how the person took care of the car. You can find them online, or if you want to pay an arm and a leg you can get them from the dealership.
4. It should, is the car an auto? |
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Yeah its a manual, I hate auto! LOL So can you give me some kinda list saying what stuff to get, where to get it, and how much? I wanna be somewhere around atleast 200 WHP, or however much you can get out of the stock shortblock. But I do wanna stick with the 2.5L. Thanks |
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You can get A LOT more 200 WHP out of that engine. I'll work up some stuff once I get back from vacation.
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Hey Polygon, I came across an 87 Pacifica Daytona today. It has 2.2L turbo 1, is this better than the 89 with the 2.5L T1? Anyway, this 87 is in much better condition so I think I'm going to get this one instead.
One other question, what will going from the stock 7 PSI, to 12 PSI do horsepower wise? Like how much gain? I was looking at FWDperformance.com and they have a lot of cool stuff. I was thinking of getting this stuff- Full 2.5" exhaust, incuding downpipe, cat, and dynomax muffler ECU upgrade stage 1 KN filter Magnicore plug wires Champion plugs Bigger injectors and a 190 LPH fuel pump (or will the 255 be better?) How much power will all these mods make it, since stock is 146 HP i'm thinking atleast 170, maybe 180. Also, will I need a BOV with the 12 PSI? Is there a stock one? Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it. Last edited by PWMAN; 05-10-2003 at 06:39 PM. |
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Uh oh, nevermind. I did a CarFax report on that 87 Pacifica, the car had 185,000 miles in 2001 when it was changed to the 7th owner! Thats too bad cuz this car is in like mint condition outside and interior. I'm sure it's much over 200K miles now. It's a digital speedo and it was tampered with so it said 0 miles. This car also has like every available option possible besides auto trans, power everything, and it had a boost gauge which I never saw on any Daytona either.
I still would like to know about all those mods for the 89 Daytona I was talking about earlier, only 3" exhaust instead of 2.5. |
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The 2.2L would have been the better way to go, but with that many miles you are better off with the Daytona. You would have to rebuld the engine, plus, odometer tampering. I wouldn't trust those people as far as I could throw them.
I'll get that list of sites up for you tomorrow. There are a lot of people out there that are more experienced at this than I, they would be far better to ask, besides they are the people that I've learned most of this stuff from. |
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