tiny spots on paint

[saturnsc2]

when i run my hand over parts of my car like my hood, it feels like there is tiny little bumps on the paint about the size of pinheads. when you look close to the surface, you see little black spots that look like tar. they do a lot of road constuction here year round & it probably is tar or something. i use tar & bug remover which removes most of them, but some remain & are hard to remove. does anyone know what these are? do those clay bars remove these? i hear that they make the paint smooth. do those clay bars remove any paint, or scratch it? any abrasives in them? i never used them....

[BullShifter]

Clay bar is the way to go. After washing/drying is the best time for clay. There are light/medium/strong clay bar, the strongest are used with a lube, light used with plain water. For over the counter, Mothers clay bar/lube works great. It will not remove paint or scratch if used right. The clay is a sticky substance that pulls "fall out" from the paint making very smooth.

Tip* Break new clay bars into 3 section, work with 1 piece at a time.
If the clay bar falls on the ground throw it out. It will pick up anything on the ground, you might as well start rubbing with sandpaper . . . . .
Very good time for a polishing & waxing after clay bar.
Always work on a cool car out of direct sunlight

Work 2' square areas
Spray lube
Rub clay on wet area - no need for pressure - back/forth not circular!
Buff dry with soft towel - microfiber best choice
Continue around the whole car.
http://www.topoftheline.com/tolae/

Best way to feel before & after
Put your hand inside a plastic baggie rub gently in a small area before & after clay bar. You will be amazed!

[mcpbw]

Originally Posted by jackasssi

Clay bar is the way to go. After washing/drying is the best time for clay. There are light/medium/strong clay bar, the strongest are used with a lube, light used with plain water. For over the counter, Mothers clay bar/lube works great. It will not remove paint or scratch if used right. The clay is a sticky substance that pulls "fall out" from the paint making very smooth.

Tip* Break new clay bars into 3 section, work with 1 piece at a time.
If the clay bar falls on the ground throw it out. It will pick up anything on the ground, you might as well start rubbing with sandpaper . . . . .
Very good time for a polishing & waxing after clay bar.
Always work on a cool car out of direct sunlight

Work 2' square areas
Spray lube
Rub clay on wet area - no need for pressure - back/forth not circular!
Buff dry with soft towel - microfiber best choice
Continue around the whole car.
http://www.topoftheline.com/tolae/

Best way to feel before & after
Put your hand inside a plastic baggie rub gently in a small area before & after clay bar. You will be amazed!

yeah what he said

[saturnsc2]

i read a thread on another site saying that clay bars remove some paint & some clearcoat. is this true? i never used one.....

[mcpbw]

not true at all. Clay bars work by gently pulling the contaminants out of your paint, not by being abrasive. I use one 1-2times a year on my cars and I use them on just about every customer that I deal with.

Eric

[CARNIGG]

clay bar is the way to go when it comes to fallout and removing "some oxidation". If there are any marks(i said "marks"..not whole car) in which the clay will not remove...i.e black marks, paint, what ever...we use a liquid clearcoat compound, with just a lil rubbing..wah lah, back to new again

[saturnsc2]

ok i'll try this clay bar. i can't figure what these tiny spots are. i thought at first they were just road tar. maybe they are some kind of tar mixed with something else. kerosene removes tar very easily, & it removed some of these spots, but some remain & i have to sometimes rub them sort of hard to remove them & also kind of gently picking them off with my fingernails. i hope this clay removes these. they ain't bad at all & they are hardly noticable except when i'm polishing the car & looking very close at the paint. i feel them on the surface & it drives me crazy. i also see some tiny rust colored spots which probably are rail dust. i park every day at work in front of the building where i work & behind the building about a block away is train tracks & there's always trains going by every day....

[BullShifter]

The bumps are called fallout - shit in the air
Picking with your finger nail is about the worst way, try the clay you will be AMAZED! Shouldn't take more than 10-20min for clay bar step.

For the rust . . .clay will only remove the upper surface, more of a temp fix. If you maintain your paint then clay bar 1-4 times a year will prevent the rust from showing. To fully remove "rail dust" an acid wash is needed.

Easy way to remove fall out(ferrous oxide) - Clay bar
2nd choice - Wet sand & heavy polish
3rd choice(best) Acid neutralizer/alkaline neutralizer/normal wash

[saturnsc2]

Originally Posted by jackasssi

The bumps are called fallout - shit in the air
Picking with your finger nail is about the worst way, try the clay you will be AMAZED! Shouldn't take more than 10-20min for clay bar step.

For the rust . . .clay will only remove the upper surface, more of a temp fix. If you maintain your paint then clay bar 1-4 times a year will prevent the rust from showing. To fully remove "rail dust" an acid wash is needed.

Easy way to remove fall out(ferrous oxide) - Clay bar
2nd choice - Wet sand & heavy polish
3rd choice(best) Acid neutralizer/alkaline neutralizer/normal wash

i'm not really worried about the rail dust. there is only a few microscopic spots on the car. i realize this is a mostly problem when cars are transported to their dealerships & that's why a lot of them now have plastic covers on the surfaces. i will use this clay bar to remove the spots. i hear rave reports about their use....

[saturnsc2]

i just bought the mothers clay bar with that lube spray detailer. it says to check the surface of the car for contamination by putting your hand in a plastic bag & then rub the surface. why do i have to put my hand in a plastic bag? i don't understand this.....

[BullShifter]

The bag allows you to feel paint differnces more easily. Do it before & after clay, you'll fell how good it really works!

[ghostguy6]

if you poor some coka-cola on the tar and let it sit for a few miutes the wash it off ot works wonders too!

[koeb$]

i dont like usin the lube spray, i spray water, with a small mix of windex then clay down the car, but the clay pulls all the little dust and dirt out of your paint restoring the smooth silky finish. some clay bars do mess up the paint, and clay made by technicians choice is pretty much garbage and will score your paint unless u apply litteraly no pressure... stay away from tech's choice

[saturnsc2]

Originally Posted by koeb$

i dont like usin the lube spray, i spray water, with a small mix of windex then clay down the car, but the clay pulls all the little dust and dirt out of your paint restoring the smooth silky finish. some clay bars do mess up the paint, and clay made by technicians choice is pretty much garbage and will score your paint unless u apply litteraly no pressure... stay away from tech's choice

IF YOU DON'T USE THE SPRAY LUBE YOU PROBABLY CAN SCRATCH THE PAINT. I WOULD USE IT. I'M SURE THEY SUPPLY IT WITH THE CLAY BARS FOR A REASON......

[koeb$]

depending on what kind of kit you buy tho, the lube has a abrassive in it but i forget what its calld, u can windex and it works just as well if not better