v-tec crate motor

[schisler2005]

I have a 91 honda accord ex and I was wondering if swaping the factory 2.2 leter for a v-tec crate motor would be a good idea? I also wonderd where I woud be able to find one, and what I would expect to pay for one?

[jazer80]

sorry but what's a vtec crate? actually ur car has a vtec i'm pretty sure. an ex should have an f22a

[skundy]

If you do any kind of swap you need to go H22a 200 hp drop in like factory.

[JasonAccord98LX]

Originally Posted by jazer80

sorry but what's a vtec crate? actually ur car has a vtec i'm pretty sure. an ex should have an f22a

No US-spec 1991 Accord has VTEC, unless someone has done an engine swap with a newer engine. They didn't come stock with it. The first Honda/Acura available in the US w/VTEC was certain models of the 1994 Acura Integra--I think the GSR, possibly the GS. I'm sure someone knows the specifics. Possibly a NSX in the states, earlier than '94, had VTEC, but def. not a stock 91 US-spec accord. Not sure about JDM.

[jazer80]

my bad i thought 4th gens had same engines as 5th's did. wait is a 91 not a 4th gen?

[JasonAccord98LX]

Originally Posted by jazer80

my bad i thought 4th gens had same engines as 5th's did. wait is a 91 not a 4th gen?

76-81 1st gen
82-85 2nd gen
86-89 3rd gen
90-93 4th gen
94-97 5th gen
98-02 6th gen
03-current 7th gen

hope this helps

[92lx]

I think by saying v-tec crate motor, he was hopefully talking about a crate h22a. In otherwords, a new (or in some rare cases, rebuilt) engine. Honda dealer is about the only place, however, going with that route is going to be expensive. I'd call for a price quote, however, you're likely looking at mega bucks if you want a new tranny too. You should go for one of the many importers and get a fairly new used one from japan.

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[schisler2005]

I was told that insted of a f22a swap with 200 hp I shoud get a 300hp v-tec crate motor. He didn't say what exactly what was ment by it just that it was 300horses and coust around $2,000.but if there isn't anything like that then that is fine. A f22a is fine with me. also I was wandering about a 6 speed racing trans to replace my foctory 5 speed.

Thanks,
Tom

[jajimo]

A 300hp Honda engine would have to be a built one, I don't believe even the C30 or C32s (NSX engines) had 300hp stock. Either way, it will cost you far more than $2000 to get one. I have a feeling whoever told you that was full of shit.

For that price, closest thing you might be able to get is an F22B with maybe some pistons, rods and a new cam. Still, that won't be near 300hp.

H22As run for more than $2000 and only crank out around 200hp so that couldn't be it. I suppose you could get one built for all-motor applications but you're looking at the price of the engine ($2,500-$3,500) plus another 2-3 grand worth of internals.

Edit: Your car should come with the F22A, SOHC non-vtec engine. If you wanted vtec that badly, you could upgrade to an F22B1, which is an SOCH vtec. However, the F22B2 is an SOHC non-vtec so you wouldn't want to swap that in. I should tell you though, it probably isn't worth your money to swap in to an F22B1, just because you're not getting a whole hell of a lot of horsepower anyway, and trust me (since I own one) the F22B1 is an engine that is HARD to shop for. Finding a new cam, new pistons, rods, etc is difficult at best.

[99AccordF23A1]

definately full of it. all you gotta do is read the post and get ideas. if someone in here isnt talking baout it you sure as hell arent gonna get it for $2000.

[skubydobdo]

Originally Posted by schisler2005

I was told that insted of a f22a swap with 200 hp I shoud get a 300hp v-tec crate motor. He didn't say what exactly what was ment by it just that it was 300horses and coust around $2,000.but if there isn't anything like that then that is fine. A f22a is fine with me. also I was wandering about a 6 speed racing trans to replace my foctory 5 speed.

Thanks,
Tom

Your 4th gen already has an f22 in it. What you're thinking about is the H22 swap from a later model prelude with 200hp. Pick one up for a few grand then get motor mounts and a new harness for the vtech and there you go.

[jajimo]

Originally Posted by skubydobdo

Your 4th gen already has an f22 in it. What you're thinking about is the H22 swap from a later model prelude with 200hp. Pick one up for a few grand then get motor mounts and a new harness for the vtech and there you go.

*Slaps you* V-TEC It's an acronym.

[schisler2005]

thanks for the info it has helped a lot. but still wondering where I could find a 6 speed racing trans to replace my 5 speed with. also I was wondering if there is a twin turbo setup that I could by for my car, so that I would not have to custom bild one for it.

thanks again,
Tom

[jajimo]

6-spd racing trans are going to be expensive, and probably will have to be a custom job if you plan to keep the F22a.

Twin Turbo setup for an Accord? Not likely. In fact, probably impossible in kit form. Almost definitely a custom job, and might I add, not worth the money.

If you want to turbo your engine, then you'll want to build up the internals first so you don't risk ruining something. Sleeve it, replace the rods and pistons, etc. Engine work and turbos are expensive, and twin turbos are even more so. Don't forget you'll need to redo the fuel system as well, and get a boost controller. For the total amount, you're probably looking at enough money to buy a whole new car.

[schisler2005]

thanks again for the info. another thing I was wondering was, if anyone knew where I could get the new H22a that I'm going to by installed at in the Moline,IL area.