4th gen prelude si help

[shaun1982]

hi, im fron auzzie land, and i currently have a 5th gen civic sedan d16 vtec auto. i plan to sell it and get a more power full honda in auto. only auto, my girlfriend does auto, and my parents do auto. they will use the car also sumtimes. so manual is a no no. can sume one give me ffedback on the 4th gen prelude si.

hows the ride quality and handling, how is the power difference to the civic whihc would be an EX model there in USA. i love the steering of the civic. its easy to turn around. is it like that in the prelude. and also, with the b16 engines. you know how it looks compared to the sohc of the civic. is the preludes engine liek the b16 and b18 look

also, my friend who had a B16a said that he cant really hear the vtec on the d16. how about the prelude si. and does any one here know the 0-100 (60) and quarter mile on the civicx and preludes.
also, does the h23a have vtec.
if i wanan swap the engine to a h22. in auto. is there much things to change in the process. like the d16 civic engine to a b16 engine. i know theres quite a few things to change for that process. about the prelude situation.

and also one more thing.

if i do get the prelude si 4th gen.

i will put a K & n filter. and a full exhaust, piping and headers.

can sum one suggest me what to get. i am one a tight budget. but does some one have a link to what to get. i dont want a fulll one huge exhaust poking at the rear. and nothing too loud. just some thing that sounds good. not like those wrx exhaust sounds. and also advise me what header

thanks. and also, how much hp would the exhaust, header and air filter add for the 160 hp engine.

thanks alot

[AcesHigh]

Hi there.

My friend's Civic EX is very light as correspondingly has very responsive handling. The Honda Prelude Si's suspension and steering system is similar and responds more or less the same way. It is heavier and more powerful.

The B16A vs. H23A is no competition. You'll feel the difference immediately when you drive it; primarily due to the greater amount of torque from the H23A. The H23A has dual overhead cams instead of the B16's SOHC, but does not have VTEC capabilities. That's okay, it will still be significantly faster than a B16. The Civic EX's here do 0-60 in about 8.4, the Prelude Si will do shave off a little over a second off that time.

As for the H23A to H22A swap, read my writeup on it. It's in the FAQ at the top of this forum's main page.

Headers will do you no good unless it's Mugen or SMSP; and a bad one might even make you lose some power. Again, go to the FAQ page and read the power thread.

Most of these questions have been answered before. Do a search.

[shaun1982]

thanks, so u qould recommend the prelude si. i know its better to get manual but i only want auto. but what piss me off, is in europe i heard that they got the prelude vtir (vtec) h22 in auto. here in australia, its only manual. thats a shame.

but yeah i will get a prelude. wha is the best color. my civic right now is gunmetal. i hope i can get the same color. i will leave it clean. maybe put a front lip. and rims and lower it. but thats it. plus 160 ph is plenty of power 4 me. cause i am use to the 125hp civic.

hehe. thanks. my bro has a 93 celica Sx (not the turbo ver.) and its really more powerfull than my civic, but when ilooked at the stats, the prelude si is full on better. thanks

[shaun1982]

and also, y wasnt the prelude as popular as the civic and teg. cause i got the best motoring dvd on hondas, and they said that even in japan, its not as popular. whats good about it, is the larger displacement, so more torque at lower revs.

also, i hear all these stuff about the sound of the dohc vtecs of the hondas, my civic is sohc so i cant really hear my vtec, but with the prelude's h23a and h22,. hows the engine sound when thrashing it.

[shaun1982]

also what is smsp. is that the brand or is that a shortcut of a name.

also how much are they. both headers u said.

but my prob. is here in australia, not sure if i can get mugen crap here inaustralia. but i'll do sum research.

[Prelewd]

Originally Posted by AcesHigh

The B16A vs. H23A is no competition. You'll feel the difference immediately when you drive it; primarily due to the greater amount of torque from the H23A. The H23A has dual overhead cams instead of the B16's SOHC, but does not have VTEC capabilities. That's okay, it will still be significantly faster than a B16. The Civic EX's here do 0-60 in about 8.4, the Prelude Si will do shave off a little over a second off that time.

D16 friend.. B16A is the Fuel Injected DOHC VTEC motor turning 160hp and 150 lb/ft torque. The B16A in a civic will eat SIs up and will be a good match for a prelude VTEC everytime.

[shaun1982]

wait wait. u said fueal injected dohc.

what about the preludes. they must be fueal injected. the si must be fuel injected. but really i dont really care if the b16 is faster. because i have a d16 vtec civic. and the prelude si is 160 hp with enormous torque compared to the ex civic. so the prelude will prop. be enough power. but with the exhaust and headers for preludes.

i checked the faqs for the prelude in this forum alreadyb ut i need just sum simple answers.
if i get the prelude si auto.
-what do i have to look for when buying a exhaust and maybe headers. (and if i dont get aftermarket headers and just get the cat back exhaust up to the catalyctic converter, will the sound still be alright. cause even if the exhaust doesnt give any performance add ons, i just want a sporty sound, but nothing too loud. what size of piping,

also, when choosing an exhaust. on the back of the tip, the huge stainless steel thing are oval shapes, and circle shapes which are nor as big as the ovals. right. are the circle shapes only for racing or what. cause i want the circle shape on. i dont want a huge shiny thing poking out the rear

thanks

[shaun1982]

fuel. sorry

[shaun1982]

hey, i also got 2 more questions

what is a intake resonator. cause i was browsing cardomain and one guy in his prelude wrote, he removed the intake resonator.

and also on the interior. u know the long dash. what is the things on the the end of each side of the dash. are they speakers. and how many speakers does preludes si comes in.

thanks

[AcesHigh]

Intake resonator is the thing that silences your stock airbox when your engine sucks in air. Typically people who have aftermarket intakes remove it. And those are speakers.

The exhaust manifold makes little difference in noise, I've found. It only changes if you move from the 4-2-1 design to the 4-1. The part of the downpipe that will make noise is the flex pipe. I'll suggest to you the Apexi WS... it gives you horsepower gains without all the headache. And can be loud when you want it to be.

My mistake on the Civic EX engine code.

SMSP is a brand name, much like Mugen or GReddy. Mugen and SMSP headers will cost you a pretty penny (Almost a grand), so you probably don't want it.

[shaun1982]

thanks, maybe i might not get exhaust.
th prelude si has 2 tips right. i always loved and want 2 tips. so i might just get a K & n filter and jus put 2 tips on the back. thats all. the 160 hp is too much for me any way.

so with the intake resonator. where is it located. cause my cousins silvia (240sx) has a k & n filter, but cant hear the whistling noise. so maybe he didnt remove theintake resonator. right.

so can some one show me what the intake resonator looks like so when i buy the filter, i can make it as loud as it is inmy civic.

thanks

[mattilude]

Originally Posted by Prelewd

D16 friend.. B16A is the Fuel Injected DOHC VTEC motor turning 160hp and 150 lb/ft torque. The B16A in a civic will eat SIs up and will be a good match for a prelude VTEC everytime.

B16 friend.. The 92-96 Prelude Si w/ the H23 has 160HP and 156lb of torque.. So stock the Civic SI owns it.. However... w/ a major weight reduction the Prelude SI would own the Civic SI.. (long live the H23 I love it, she's torquey )