New York City Cats

[gang$tarr]

Jay-Z Vs. Nas

I dunno maybe DVS could help me out.... somebody told me that HOT97 in new york is doin the King of NY thing. and i wanna know what's goin down, i wish i could get that station some how

Anybody into hip hop probably knows that these to have been exchangin disses with each other in songs. Jay-Z talks about f*ckin Nas's girl. and Nas has 2 diss songs on Jay-Z.. one is HOMO (h to the izzo, M to the izzo) and the other one is called Ether.... stillmatic

IMO
Nasir's the King of NY without a doubt, his illmatic album was off tha hook. It kinda revolutionized hip hop... i think he destroys Jay-Z
I also hate Jay-Z so that might have somethin to do with it
To me he just seems like another mainstream rapper who just tries to make tracks that'll sell... why'll nas is deep and does his own shit, weather people like it or not

some shit i've heard people say:

dj premier - "nas ate him"
Mr Cee = Jay Z
Fat Joe = Nas
Tim Westwood = too scared to say.. even tho fat joe said he would walk him home...
Bugsy = Nas
Fat Man Scoop = jay z
Big Dee = Nas
Flex = Nas


"Life's a bitch an then you die/ that's why we get high/ cause you never know/ when ya gunna go"

"I woke up early on my born day I'm twenty years of blessing/ The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh/ in My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it/ One quarter through life some God-ly like thing created/ Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some Load up the mic and bust one/ cuss while I puffs from my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain/ Don't go against the grain simple and plain/ When I was young at this I used to do my thing/ hard Robbin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards/ Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash/ and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash/ Now it's all about cash in abundance/ niggaz I used to run with is rich or doin years in the hundreds/ I switched my motto/ -- instead of sayin fuck tomorrow/ That buck that bought a bottle/ could've struck the lotto/ Once I stood on the block/ loose cracks produce stacks/ I cooked up and cut small pieces to get my loot back/ Time is Illmatic keep static like wool fabric Pack a four-matic that crack your whole cabbage


"Condominium, thug dressed like a gentleman
Tailor made ostrich, Chanel for my women friend
Murderin, numbers on your head while I'm burglarin
Shank is servin em, whassup to all my niggaz swervin in
New York metropolis, the Bridge brings apocalypse
Shoot at the clouds feels like, the holy beast is watchin us
Mad man my sanity is goin like an hourglass
Gun inside my bad hand I sliced tryin to bag grams"

those are just some random quotes from songs.... they're kinda hard to make out, better to listen to Nas flow


IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIP HOP THEN DON'T REPLY TO THIS THREAD, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR BAD OPINION ON IT IS

[kris]

Originally posted by gang$tarr
Jay-Z Vs. Nas

I dunno maybe DVS could help me out.... somebody told me that HOT97 in new york is doin the King of NY thing. and i wanna know what's goin down, i wish i could get that station some how

Well, I don't like hip hop, but I will still reply.

Have you tried running a search to see if you can find a online broadcast? I know nowdays, pretty much every station does that.

[PART]

YO i live in NYC i dont really listen to rap though but most of my friends do nobody has said nething about it.. ill ask around tomorrow and get back to u on it

[DVSNCYNIKL]

I was going to post a thread yesterday about this. Yesterday Jay-Z released a response to Nas's "Ether". All I have to say is, right now all of NYC is reeling from what Jay_Z said about Nas. Quite frankly, I didn't even believe how bad Jay ripped into him. Don't get me wrong, I like Nas, but Jay is just a better lyricist than he is. Yesterday, he proved that. If you haven't heard the response, you need to hear it. It is sick!!!!!!

And just in case, G$, even Hot 97 said the same thing, Jay-Z ripped him up. I'm just waiting to see if Nas will respond.:hehe:

[YogsVR4]

Who? What? King of NY? Isn't that Gulliani? Or maybe its from that "Escape From New York" movie.

[LiuBei]

I like both, but I think Jay-Z would be the one. I don't think Nas would claim that title anyway since BIG is gone. That simply being a matter of respect from his point of view.

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by DVSNCYNIKL
I was going to post a thread yesterday about this. Yesterday Jay-Z released a response to Nas's "Ether". All I have to say is, right now all of NYC is reeling from what Jay_Z said about Nas. Quite frankly, I didn't even believe how bad Jay ripped into him. Don't get me wrong, I like Nas, but Jay is just a better lyricist than he is. Yesterday, he proved that. If you haven't heard the response, you need to hear it. It is sick!!!!!!

And just in case, G$, even Hot 97 said the same thing, Jay-Z ripped him up. I'm just waiting to see if Nas will respond.:hehe:

No way! Nas destroys Jay-Z
I can't find an online broadcast of Hot97... they don't even have a website, it's like under construction or somethin

Nas kills jay... his lyrical skills are so much better than jays, his illmatic album really revolutionized hip hop
His best friend (Ill Will) was basically gunned down in front of him... and he's from queensbridge.
I don't really know anything about Jay-Z but i doubt he's been through as much

even 2pac took Nas back years ago..... like a week before pac died, him and pac had no beef, they made up. and pac was talkin bout how Nas is the illest rapper in NY. He was going to take the diss track off makevelli out but he died and didn't get the chance to, and they still put that track on the CD. It's actually 2pac sayin "Fuck Jay-Z" at the beginning of ether. (it's just a slowed down sample)
I love that track "We will survive" when nas gives props to pac

"Dear Pac/ Every thug sheds a teardrop/ And use to teeth to bite off beer tops/ And pour out a lil' liquor/ You was more than the wildest nigga/ 2Pacalypse, I understand your style nigga/ Its goin' on the 3rd year/ Since you've been gone/ On the East and West Coast the same shit is goin' on/ The industry be talkin'/ Offendin' me often/They don't beleive you dead/Wanna see you in your coffin/I pray late/Shootouts and court dates/All eyes on you/Niggaz in your face/Invadin' your space/ You asked if I could trade in your place/ How would I hold up/ How long would I ride, before I fold up?/ How did you know through your rhymes it was your time to go?/ You predicted it in every line/ All in your flow/ There could never be peace/ I have to quote/ Can't believe I heard my name on the relaest shit you ever wrote/ We had words/ Cause the best supposed to clash at the top/ But kept it brotherly/ When we seen each other and stopped/ In NYC, at MTV/ People watched/ We was both deep/ After you left, I got no sleep"

that is one sick ass verse... Jay-Z couldn't come close
I didn't like Nas last 2 albums much though... it's just illmatic, that album was amazing.... lets hope that wit the new album he's stillmatic



Nas rips jay up like madd
"eminem dissed you on your own shit, you a dick ridin faggot, you love the attention"
"How much of Biggie's rhymes gone come out your fat lips"
"Heard it when I was asleep, that this Gay-Z and Cock-a-fella records wanted beef"

"H to the izzO, M to the izzO, fo shizzo, ma nizzo.. you fake rap version of sisqo"

some more from ether:

"Rockefeller got it, AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after
Put it togEther, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now you trying to take my spot, fellas?"

"My child, I watch you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women
Were you abused as a child? Scared to smile, they called you ugly
Well, life is harsh, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatant or indirectly
In '88, you was getting chased through your building
Calling my crib, and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was give you a style for you to run with
Smiling in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearing Jaz' chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail, bars, Jigga, no pies, no cake
Just Hawaiian shirts, hanging with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a stan
I'll still whip your ass, you 36 in a karate class
You tae bo hoe, trying to work it out, you trying to get brolic
Ask me if i'm tryin ta kick knowledge"


LOL!!! I dunno how bad you can get ripped up but that is fuckin crazy..... i doubt Jay-Z can top that, since all jay-z talks about is how back in the day, like years ago he fucked Nas's ex-wife (before she got wit nas)
He's got nothin....

Most big hip hop names say Nas too
Jay-Z just tries to sell records, he really is a phony

somebody tell me the track i wanna hear his come back

[DVSNCYNIKL]

Gang$tarr, instead of running your mouth and expressing your opinion, listen to the track and then come back. I'm not going to bother debating with you till then.

[gang$tarr]

i wasn't running my mouth? most of that was just Nas quotes, of what he's said about Jay
and how i feel about both rappers all around (not just the couple diss songs they have with each other)
since the king of NY is more than just a couple songs.... it's the overall rapper

and i could listen to jay-z's diss if you would tell me what it's called!! lol

also is there any place i can listen to Hot97 online?

[i_rebel]

NAS will NEVER be better than Jay-Z . . .

I've been following this from the beginning as a hardcore Jigga fan, and I tuned in to the radio last night.

NAS has an ill flow, don't get me wrong . . . he just couldn't keep up with his fame . . . he has no focus, and lost his way due to the hype of being a rap star.

"Ether" . . . is almost as deep as it is dirty, but you being the NAS fan (G$), I'll let you tell it . . .

I missed the results of the poll on Hot 97.1 . . . I had an appointment to get my hair twisted . . .

updates anyone?

[DVSNCYNIKL]

Originally posted by gang$tarr
i wasn't running my mouth? most of that was just Nas quotes, of what he's said about Jay
and how i feel about both rappers all around (not just the couple diss songs they have with each other)
since the king of NY is more than just a couple songs.... it's the overall rapper

and i could listen to jay-z's diss if you would tell me what it's called!! lol

also is there any place i can listen to Hot97 online?

Jay-Z's response is called "Super Ugly". He uses two beats. The first part starts with Nas's "Got yourself a gun" and the second part kicks in with Dr. Dre's "Super Ugly" beat. It is as everyone in NYC is calling it, "Super Ugly". Nas needs to come back with a response.

[i_rebel]

Jay-Z's disses:


- Blueprint 2 (Takeover 2) ??

- Super Ugly

[DVSNCYNIKL]

Originally posted by i_rebel
Jay-Z's disses:


- Blueprint 2 (Takeover 2) ??

- Super Ugly

At last I heard, Jay-Z was in the lead as more New Yorkers said that Jay's response was more brutal and factual than Nas's assumptions and here say.

[i_rebel]

I got some of Super Ugly on tape . . . last night . . .

I'll give you a few quotes when I get back from lunch.

[gang$tarr]

see i knew more people would like jay-z cause he's such a phony...... he just tries to satisfy the mainstream audience cause that's where he'll sell more records.. then he gets more fans, etc.
Jay-Z stole his style from Nas and Biggie
he just goes where the money is..

and Nas is way more focused than Jay-Z..... he doesn't want to be the most popular mainstream rapper with record album sales. He just wants to do his own thing, he actually said he wants to move to africa, cause that's his motherland. and he's probably goin to move to africa not long from now... cause he doesn't care about popularity or anything like that

I'm still just talkin about both overall rappers... i haven't listened to that jay-z song yet cause i don't think one song will change my opinion on a rapper

I'm not sayin that Jay-Z is a horrible rapper, i'm just sayin that Nas's skills on the mic are a level above
Nas is pretty much a legend... he's up with biggie and pac
without his illmatic album hip hop would be different right now

i'm gunna go try to find that jay-z song now