Mach I or WS6

PWMAN · #1 06-05-2003, 10:03 PM

So which would win overall, at the strip, on the track, whatever. A 2003 Mach I or a 02 WS6 T/A with the LS1. Please no Ford is better or vice versa crap. Only the facts please.

Neutrino · #2 06-06-2003, 12:16 AM

i'll take the WS6 since it has that awesome ls1 small block 350 which imo has the most aftermarket suport out of the v8's out there....also that air package gives the car such a mean look

jon@af · #3 06-06-2003, 09:56 PM

Im not sure of the horsepower in the Mach 1 so I cant very well make an opinion. As of now, it might come down to the driver.

1BAD305 · #4 06-07-2003, 04:03 AM

blah, mach 1 has nuthin on the ls1 equipped T/A, last mag review ive seen on that mach 1 they did a 14.0 @ 101, not even a threat.

PWMAN · #5 06-07-2003, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by 1BAD305
blah, mach 1 has nuthin on the ls1 equipped T/A, last mag review ive seen on that mach 1 they did a 14.0 @ 101, not even a threat.

Thats not what I read. In ''Mustangs and fast Fords'' Magazine they did a test and they said with slicks it ran a 12.97, also had one of the best drivers in the world doing it though. So with street tires, 13.5 shouldn't be hard to accomplish with a person with strip experience.

PWMAN · #6 06-07-2003, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars
Im not sure of the horsepower in the Mach 1 so I cant very well make an opinion. As of now, it might come down to the driver.

305 HP. But the mustang is lighter than the T/A if I'm not mistaken.

1BAD305 · #7 06-07-2003, 08:47 AM

put that LS1 on slicks, seen radial ls1s do high 12s before. i thought the new stangs were heavier then the fbodys? oh well i could be wrong

PWMAN · #8 06-12-2003, 05:40 PM

Anybody else have an opinion?

1BAD305- I watched a episode of car and driver, and I quote - ''Finally a Mustang besides a Cobra that can atleast run with an LS1 Camaro or Trans am''. They are fast and sound mean, maybe you should test drive one yourself before saying the Mach 1's got nothing on the LS1 F-body's. Sure it will stomp any GT Stang, but the Mach is WAY faster than a GT. The mach has the practically the same engine that old N/A Cobra's had.

idunno · #9 06-13-2003, 01:44 PM

''Finally a Mustang besides a Cobra that can atleast run with an LS1 Camaro or Trans am''.

well duh, it's a cobra 4v motor

since a ls1 would bury a 99/01 cobra i would have to go with the ls1 on this one

PWMAN · #10 06-13-2003, 03:05 PM

It's not completely the same as the cobra engine. It has different cams, I know that much. But yeah it is the 4 BBL, 4 valve per cylinder.

YogsVR4 · #11 06-16-2003, 03:28 PM

LS1 - stock to stock. Mod to mod. Its going to come out on top.

DVS LT1 · #12 06-17-2003, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by PWMAN
'Finally a Mustang besides a Cobra that can atleast run with an LS1 Camaro or Trans am''

The 32 valve 4.6L DOHC V8 in the Mach 1 is a strong motor - bit more of a twenty first century V8 for not having pushrods - and has the potential for incredible gains.

Nevertheless, the 16 valve 5.7L pushrod LS1 V8 is a sleeping monster - incredible in stock trim, and it just loves simple bolt on mods.

I must give the nod to the LS1 - but I know what the 32 valver is all about. My buddy's '98 Corbra (powertrain bone stock) ran a flat 13 ET when he just swapped out the gears to like a 4.30 something.

Edit: His trap speed was 108 Mph.

DVS LT1 · #13 06-17-2003, 04:05 PM

And by the way the 32 valve 4.6L V8 "IS" the Cobra engine - so to say the Mach 1 is the first non-Cobra Mustang to keep up is a bit misleading cause its running the Cobra motor.

The Mach 1 isn't non-Cobra cheap either.

But then again F-body pricing started to get a bit rediculous near the end.

PWMAN · #14 06-17-2003, 04:46 PM

Yes, now thats the kinda opinion I wanted. Thanx

PWMAN · #15 06-17-2003, 04:55 PM

Don't worry, I know the potential of pushrod engines. In my Power Wagon, I put a engine from a '65 Barracuda - a 273 (4.5L) CID. It's bored .040 over (makes it a 4.6L), head was milled some to make it 9:1 compression, stock size valves, and no porting and I'm pushing 325 horses from a 4.6L pushrod. Now the ports on this engine came pretty decent from the factory, but with porting, larger valves, upped compression to 10:1, and a cam swap, and I'd be doing 450 HP. All from a 2 valve per cylinder - pushrod - carburated 4.6L. Oh but it has a solid lifter cam, which helps ALOT. Adjusting the valves is a pain, but it's worth it.

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