Bush wants war to continue

[taranaki]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Challenging militants who attack U.S. forces in Iraq, President Bush said Wednesday they would be dealt with harshly, and declared, "Bring them on."

For the second day in a row, Bush vowed that attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq will not shake his administration's resolve to stay in that country until a strong and stable democratic government takes root.

"Anybody who wants to harm American troops will be found and brought to justice," Bush said. "There are some that feel like if they attack us that we may decide to leave prematurely. They don't understand what they are talking about if that is the case. Let me finish. There are some who feel like the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is, bring them on."

U.S. forces, he added, are "plenty tough" to deal with any security threats.

The president made his comments as he spoke to reporters at the White House, following an announcement about his program to combat AIDS in Africa and the Caribbean.(Full story)

They echoed comments he made Tuesday, when he appeared to address growing concerns about U.S. military deaths in Iraq and the continued U.S. military presence there. In March, U.S. forces led an invasion of Iraq to topple the government of Saddam Hussein, whom the United States and allies said was developing weapons of mass destruction.

But Bush's tough talk was criticized by Democratic presidential candidate Dick Gephardt who said the president should stop with the "phony, macho rhetoric."

"I have a message for the president," Gephardt said in a statement. "We should be focused on a long-term security plan that reduces the danger to our military personnel."

"We need a clear plan to bring stability to Iraq and an honest discussion with the American people on the cost of that endeavor," Gephardt's statement continued. "We need a serious attempt to develop a postwar plan for Iraq and not more shoot-from-the-hip one-liners."

Since May 1 -- when Bush declared an end to major combat in Iraq -- there have been more than two dozen "hostile" U.S. military deaths in Iraq, according to the Pentagon.

Bush said on Tuesday that rebuilding Iraq, following a U.S.-led invasion there, will be a "massive and long-term undertaking," one that he suggested would require further sacrifice.

Some lawmakers, however, have begun to question how long the United States should remain in Iraq.

For example, Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pennsylvania, on Tuesday called for troops to leave Iraq as soon as possible. Speaking to a group of business executives in Washington, Weldon, a strong supporter of the war in Iraq, said one of Congress' "greatest concerns is that our government not get bogged down with our military for the long term."

He added, "Yes, we want to guarantee stability in that country," but steps should be taken so that "as soon as possible we can bring our troops back home."

The administration has not provided a specific timeline for when the United States will pull troops out of Iraq.

"We're not leaving until we accomplish the task," Bush said Wednesday.

[YogsVR4]

I don't see the coorelation between your thread title and the text of the message.

I know how often you expressed fear that Bush is the biggest threat to world peace yada yada yada - you should really be afraid of Gephardt and his ilk. Now there is one scary mo-fo.

[TexasF355F1]

Originally posted by YogsVR4
I don't see the coorelation between your thread title and the text of the message.

I know how often you expressed fear that Bush is the biggest threat to world peace yada yada yada - you should really be afraid of Gephardt and his ilk. Now there is one scary mo-fo.

Even scarier than Gephardt is Al Sharpton and worse than him....Hillary. God help us all if she's elected.

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by TexasF355F1

Even scarier than Gephardt is Al Sharpton and worse than him....Hillary. God help us all if she's elected.

Not to stray to far from the origin of the thread - but that is most unlikly. She can win races in the Northeast and perhaps on the west coast, but she'd never be able in as President (unless she were the vice and tragedy struck)

[taranaki]

Originally posted by YogsVR4
I don't see the coorelation between your thread title and the text of the message.

Given your ongoing stance on Iraq,I never expected you to.

One third of the U.S.troops who have died in Iraq have died since Bush declared the main thrust of the war to be over.Now he is inciting the Iraqis to attack his troops,so that he can exterminate some more.

Bush doesn't want peace for Iraq,he wants Iraq.The families of those who are serving in the Middle East will be delighted that he is using their boys as bait.He's proving once again to be morally bankrupt,and should be dumped at the next election,if not sooner.

Perhaps if he's so keen on using his troops as human lures to catch terrorists,he shoul put his money where his mouth is and put himself on Iraqi soil as a target.With a little luck he'd end up with a round in the back of his head.

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by taranaki


Given your ongoing stance on Iraq,I never expected you to.

One third of the U.S.troops who have died in Iraq have died since Bush declared the main thrust of the war to be over.Now he is inciting the Iraqis to attack his troops,so that he can exterminate some more.

Bush doesn't want peace for Iraq,he wants Iraq.The families of those who are serving in the Middle East will be delighted that he is using their boys as bait.He's proving once again to be morally bankrupt,and should be dumped at the next election,if not sooner.

Perhaps if he's so keen on using his troops as human lures to catch terrorists,he shoul put his money where his mouth is and put himself on Iraqi soil as a target.With a little luck he'd end up with a round in the back of his head.

He's inciting them so he can exterminate more huh. Common - thats a bunch of bs and you know it. I also know where your opinions stand. I don't think this article supports either of our positions.

[Ludelover]

One question to all doubters of Bush's 'real' intentions....where are all of the 'weapons of mass destruction' in Iraq? wasn't that the main reason for their war against Iraq?
damn, when are people going to realize what this war was really about?


UN 1, US 0

[Ludelover]

and yeah, we are north of the US, but we use whats north of our necks to think b4 we take action as well! You could learn a thing or two.


thats the dumbest sig. pic i've seen on this site yet, good work!

[TexasF355F1]

Originally posted by Ludelover
One question to all doubters of Bush's 'real' intentions....where are all of the 'weapons of mass destruction' in Iraq? wasn't that the main reason for their war against Iraq?
damn, when are people going to realize what this war was really about?


UN 1, US 0

The whole weapons of mass destruction thing has been beat to death. Quite frankly though, I refuse to even watch anything else on the whole Iraq thing b/c I'm sick of it. I don't care anymore if the U.S. is liked or hated, I just don't care.

[taranaki]

We've covered the WMD thing fully,established that the U.S. can't find Osama OR Saddam,I'm just curious as to what Bush hopes to achieve with this latest round of bullshit macho rhetoric.Two things are for certain,it WON'T win the hearts and minds of Iraqis,and it WON'T persuade those loyal to Saddam to come out with their hands up.I suspect the only reason for this warmongering claptrap is to keep the voters focused on the war,and away from Bush's pisspoor general record as President.

[Marc04]

Originally posted by Ringo
removed by moderator

what?


and i fail to see why Hillary is such a hated person

[taranaki]

Welcome to the Political forum,Ringo.Please make your points without making offensive comments,or you will be banned from AF.

[Ringo]

Well, well, well! seems like you’re not accustomed to American rights like freedom of speech. You talk like your government has never done anything wrong.
Too bad I don’t have censoring powers like you so I can modify your posts.

[taranaki]

If Iwere to suggest that you were a rapist,I'd expect a moderator to edit my post.I'm assuming that you can read,but that you have either insufficient brain capacity,or insufficient manners,to remember the AF guidelines.

For your convenience,here's a link.

AF guidelines

If you have trouble understanding the longer words,we'd be happy to explain for you.


Now if you'd care to make any observations as to what my government has 'done wrong' in the last,say 100 years,I'd be happy to debate the issuue.If you can even tell me who 'my government' is,you will have exceeded my estimation of your intelligence.


And by the way.The internet is not America.AF is not America.Be grateful for the fact,because if it were I'd be suing your balls off for your incredibly stupid coments about aborigines and rape.

Feel free to post an apology any time,you are getting seriously beaten at this game and it is in your interests to quit ,before you make yourself look like a total dickhead.

[TexasF355F1]

Ringo, just relax and speak in a calm and peaceful manner. I hate Hillary just as much as the next person, but no need to go on rampages bashing everyone, especially Naki. If you actually viewed the whole politics forum for a while you would see Naki is a good guy who has his own opinions just like you and I. If you enjoy the freedoms we have here in America so much, why don't you reread the Bill of Rights and give Naki the right to free speech(i.e. the first amendment). You are being a pretty big asshole and I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.