ignition problems on 94 S10

[hypermaxed]

i was replacing a fuel pump relay on my S10 today i double checked the part #'s and it was compatible, i put everything back together. i went to start the truck and i get nothing from the ignition no crank no click. i have checked the fuses checked the battery cables cleaned them up with a wire brush still nothing from the ignition is there something i missed ? i have not tried to jump the starter yet as i have no idea where it is on this truck lol. embarrassed to admit that. any help is greatly apperciated

[Blue Bowtie]

Is this a 134" inline or the 262 V-6?

[hypermaxed]

262 V6 Vin Z

[hypermaxed]

just in case you wondered, no i never put the push button start on. all wiring is oem as far as i know.

[aleekat]

Get a voltmeter and test your battery first.

[hypermaxed]

ok i checked the battery 12.65V, cleaned the cables. checked voltage at the dash for the ignition its getting 11.45V i checked all the grounds i could see. all my dash lights are working it seems i am getting power everywhere but the key when i turn it to start the truck.

[hypermaxed]

on the picture the relay i replaced is the last one on the right. looking at pictures online. should i have more plugged in?

[aleekat]

Originally Posted by hypermaxed

ok i checked the battery 12.65V, cleaned the cables. checked voltage at the dash for the ignition its getting 11.45V i checked all the grounds i could see. all my dash lights are working it seems i am getting power everywhere but the key when i turn it to start the truck.

So when you turn the key, do the lights dim? Did you check voltage when turning the key? Could be just coincidence that it won't crank after what you did.
Automatic? If so try starting in neutral.

[hypermaxed]

the lights on the dash and radio shut off, i do not notice any dimming of the dome or mirror lights. when i put the truck in Neutral the key won't turn at all. key won't turn unless in park. no crank at all, i turn the key to start the truck and nothing happens. before this happened i was having issues with the truck dying and stalling out so when i had issues starting the truck one day i got a CODE 54 i looked up the problems that it could entail. so i went out and got a new fuel pump relay. before i did anything i disconnected the battery. switched the relay and hooked back up the battery. that's all

this is where i got info for the code https://repairpal.com/gm-obd-code-54

[aleekat]

Originally Posted by hypermaxed

the lights on the dash and radio shut off, i do not notice any dimming of the dome or mirror lights. when i put the truck in Neutral the key won't turn at all. key won't turn unless in park. no crank at all, i turn the key to start the truck and nothing happens. before this happened i was having issues with the truck dying and stalling out so when i had issues starting the truck one day i got a CODE 54 i looked up the problems that it could entail. so i went out and got a new fuel pump relay. before i did anything i disconnected the battery. switched the relay and hooked back up the battery. that's all

this is where i got info for the code https://repairpal.com/gm-obd-code-54

Doesn't take much to light a dome/mirror light. You need to connect the voltmeter to the battery and read the voltage when trying to start.
How old is your battery?
Have you tried to jump start it with another car?

[hypermaxed]

yes i did try to jump it with another car still no crank or start .. the battery is less than 3 months old and the volts as of this post 12.50V

[aleekat]

https://www.aa1car.com/library/us1296.htm

[hypermaxed]

guess i am goin to rent a steering wheel puller tomorrow to replace the ignition cylinder

[brcidd]

As I recall- a '94 has the ignition switch on the steering column left side- driven by a push rod- no need to pull steering wheel...

Do what I would do- turn ignition on (pink wires will be energized now) then jumper (or cross up) your red wire to yellow wire on ignition switch plug---(big heavy wires) see if starter engages- if so- the bad ignition switch, if not then problem is elsewhere- as in tranny park/neutral switch.

report back..

[hypermaxed]

i was not able to get out to work on the truck today. the wires i am looking for is it on the same plug in for the wipers and buzzer or another plug that i need to find?