Friend totalls his 2006 supercharged GT Mustang

[ponchonutty]

His ride has a supercharger and some other misc. bolt on parts. It's a pretty sweet ride for a Ford(well, was) and he only drives it occasionally. Over the summer he installed a supercharger and some other misc. bolt on parts. Well, on Saturday the day was nice so he decided to get it warmed up a bit. Has he was traveling down a nice, rural highway he got on it a little. When he went to go into 3rd gear the rear end locked up causing the car to go out of control. It slid into a decent sized ditch where it caught the front end and flipped over. He was ejected and surprisingly survived. He broke his neck, bruised a lung, broke a few ribs, tore up his right shoulder, and shattered his right leg.

He's not some young punk but a 31 year old Sherriff Deputy. He's been around fast cars and many Mustangs so I am sure he knew what he was doing. I guess after the accident he had found out that Ford has had more and more reports of major problems with the Mustang. Everything he bolted on was from Ford and the SS was only pumping about 8psi so it's not like he was really raping the shit out of the car. The State Police is investigating what really happened. I'm curious as to what Ford will do if they do find it was a mechanical defect.

[silverstangs]

What major problems with mustangs?

[SkylineUSA]

How does a rear lock up? I have never heard on a rear doing that, they shatter, they break, they wear out, but never lock up.

He is a Sheriff Deputy, and was not wearing a seat belt? He is very lucky to be alive, which I am glad he did.

Any of you kids out there, that are reading this, WEAR YOUR SEATBELT!

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by silverstangs

What major problems with mustangs?

mustangs have always had a good reputation.

sounds to me like you just dont like fords.

[AltecZX2]

well it doesnt:
1. have a cool PSSSSHH! sound
2. look like a skittle
3. have stock turbo
4. ....did i mention the skittle part?


my friends brother killed his rear on his 06 v6 buy just doing a few boltons and SCT

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by AltecZX2

well it doesnt:
1. have a cool PSSSSHH! sound
2. look like a skittle
3. have stock turbo
4. ....did i mention the skittle part?


my friends brother killed his rear on his 06 v6 buy just doing a few boltons and SCT

well i was gonna leave criticizing his car out of it... but oh well.

i dont know how he could have killed the rear that easily, it was probably something with driving habits, its the same rear on mustangs since the 80's on the v6, its nothing new and its been reliable. as far as the GT goes, those rear ends are tough as hell, and again are nothing new. so this thread is basically useless.

[SkylineUSA]

GT and the V6s have different rears? That is good to know, cheers.

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by SkylineUSA

GT and the V6s have different rears? That is good to know, cheers.

yeah the v6 has a 7.5" rear. the gt has a 8.8". whats funny is the v6 mustangs rear is the same size as a camaro SS.

[BlackGT2000]

Why is it so unbelievable that the guy just gave it too much and couldn't control it. Just because he is a cop doesn't mean he can't have too much fun. Even experienced drivers are killed. Look at Dale Earnhart (I know completely different situation) he was a pro driver and was killed at the wheel. I would be extremely surprised to hear that there was a single mechanical problem from the factory that could be attributed to this accident.

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by BlackGT2000

Why is it so unbelievable that the guy just gave it too much and couldn't control it. Just because he is a cop doesn't mean he can't have too much fun. Even experienced drivers are killed. Look at Dale Earnhart (I know completely different situation) he was a pro driver and was killed at the wheel. I would be extremely surprised to hear that there was a single mechanical problem from the factory that could be attributed to this accident.

i definatly agree. im 99.9% sure nothing went wrong with the rear end. that possibility frankly seems to make no sense. another thing i thought of is maybe it was let-up oversteer. ive seen people crash before when they were on it real hard and they just let up completely while they move over or something. it can definatly cause some serious oversteer. there was a vid not to long ago i saw of it.

[silverstangs]

I wonder if he broke some teeth on the ring and pinion.. that could cause it to lock up for a second, but even if the rear did lock up..what is the worst thing that could happen... he leaves two big long skid marks, while steering with the FRONT tires?

[351wStang]

Originally Posted by silverstangs

I wonder if he broke some teeth on the ring and pinion.. that could cause it to lock up for a second, but even if the rear did lock up..what is the worst thing that could happen... he leaves two big long skid marks, while steering with the FRONT tires?

Sure he could leave two long black marks. But would he go straight? I've seen on more than one occasion where a friend of mine, (who is not very bright at times), has been going down the road at about 25-30mph and pull up the E-brake. Some times he goes straight, some times the car turns sideways. When the rearend of the car wants to go around the front tires wont always be able to "over-correct" enough. I've driven more than a couple vehicles sideways with the back tires spinning and get it back straight no problem. But when the back tires are locked up you really have no control.

Now I could see some brocked teeth kind of "jamming" up the rearend, but with the force of the car moving forward and the drag on the tires, I'd say it would break back loose pretty quick.

But who knows, I wasnt there so I cant say who is right or wrong, I can just relay my experiances.

[silverstangs]

Originally Posted by 351wStang

Sure he could leave two long black marks. But would he go straight? I've seen on more than one occasion where a friend of mine, (who is not very bright at times), has been going down the road at about 25-30mph and pull up the E-brake. Some times he goes straight, some times the car turns sideways. When the rearend of the car wants to go around the front tires wont always be able to "over-correct" enough. I've driven more than a couple vehicles sideways with the back tires spinning and get it back straight no problem. But when the back tires are locked up you really have no control.

Now I could see some brocked teeth kind of "jamming" up the rearend, but with the force of the car moving forward and the drag on the tires, I'd say it would break back loose pretty quick.

But who knows, I wasnt there so I cant say who is right or wrong, I can just relay my experiances.

Well I'll knock and wood and consider myself lucky then because I have a aluminum differential case, so if anything goes wrong, that should bust apart. I really don't like tearing apart the IRS thou..

[ponchonutty]

OK, to clear a few things up here..... YES, he was wearing his seatbelt but they are unsure how he was ejected. He does have the tell tale signs of bruising on his lap and across his chest which resulted in cracking his ribs. You should see this car. It doesn't look like a Mustang at all. There's not a panel without a dent. Both doors were ripped right off the car.

Preliminary results are pointing to a failure in the rear end. I haven't gotten a straight answer as to what they mean buy that(I know someone in the State Patrol leaking me info). I guess there have been more reports of the pinion gears on the new style Mustangs shearing which obviously could cause the tires to lock and lose control.

So far he's still hanging in there. They still have him in ICU but he's stabilized. I haven't gotten a chance to talk to him in the last few days but hopefully I will with this weekend.

[silverstangs]

Originally Posted by ponchonutty

Preliminary results are pointing to a failure in the rear end. I haven't gotten a straight answer as to what they mean buy that(I know someone in the State Patrol leaking me info). I guess there have been more reports of the pinion gears on the new style Mustangs shearing which obviously could cause the tires to lock and lose control..

Well........ being that I'm VERY intune with mustangs, I have not hear of any issues with rear end failures on the mustangs. The only real difference between the rear ends between 1984~2006 is the mouting points that the control arms attach too, and the spring purches. It's been the same basic design the whole time.

Now if his car was making lots of torque and he did a bunch of launches in the car, then it is possible for him to bust a tooth on the pinion or ring gear.