cold air intakes

Darkwing · #1 08-12-2001, 11:09 PM

I heard you lose Hp with these, is this true? I just want to buy one and install it, not make a custom air scoop. Is it worth the $100-$200 to buy one? It's supposed to be the cheapest, best upgrade for your car. If this is not the case, then which is?

thanx: DW

flylwsi · #2 08-13-2001, 02:06 AM

how would you lose hp?
a cai brings in more cool air than a short ram style... which means more power b/c of the lower denser temp air... its worth it...
when adding an intake, you are flowing more air, less restricted... which may result in a slight tq decrease, but not a decrease in hp... and this is at low rpm... but it will rev faster... so it is almost unnoticeable...

Darkwing · #3 08-13-2001, 02:16 PM

I was reading this article on the net: http://www.geocities.com/stutzedward...ir_Intake.html

I just need some auto expert to tell me if this guy is full of bs or not.

TheMan5952 · #4 08-14-2001, 04:15 AM

Cold Air intakes do work. Buy one if you can, I have felt a power difference.

Racing Rice · #5 08-16-2001, 12:33 PM

Ive never heard anyone say that before.. It would almost be impossible not to gain hp becuase it is bringing in colder air then inside the engine compartment... Now if you have something like a JRSC I heard its better to have a Short ram because its 3inches instead of 2.5 (AEM intakes) which allows more air. With the JRSC you dont really need colder air because the JRSC will heat the air anyway. Thats the only time you wouldnt advantage from a CAI that I can think of...

Darkwing · #6 08-20-2001, 12:47 PM

that's what that guy said, that intakes suck in hotter air than the stock one's b/c they set INSIDE the engine bay. and hotter air makes you lose Hp of course. he said that in order for it to work properly, the intake opening must be outside the engine bay. Is this true?

flylwsi · #7 08-20-2001, 06:38 PM

well... true... but if you are taking in more air with an intake, it offsets the heat... if you suck in alot of hot air with a short stack intake, or a little cold air with the stocker, then you are at least gaining there... and the air flow velocity with an intake vs the stock one is much higher as an aftermarket intake flows more air smoothly...
it is true that a cai will flow more air, cold air... but you dont lose out with a short stack over the stock intake. a cai is better than that though...

Darkwing · #8 08-22-2001, 01:46 PM

sounds like you pay a couple hundred to come out even. Or do you really gain Hp in spite of the air being hotter.

Would you reccommend a K&N filtercharger over a cai? (my dad's lookin into getting a K&N cuz its alot cheaper)

flylwsi · #9 08-23-2001, 03:29 PM

fact of the matter is that if you dyno w/ stock vs the intake (cai or short stack) intakes get more hp
same with runnin at the track
higher velocity air means better. end of story. even if it is marginally warmer, the benefits outweigh the cons...

Slow · #10 08-27-2001, 04:28 PM

i read somewhere that you have to make a change to cold air intakes when it rains...is this true, and if it is, what kind/how hard is the change you have to make?

kris · #11 08-27-2001, 04:40 PM

How careless are you when it rains? Do you drive through big puddles? I had a CAI on my civic for almost 2 years, and I never had any problems. What you want to be carefull of with a CAI, is getting the cone submerged in water. When that happens, you get instant Hydrolock.

kris · #12 08-27-2001, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Darkwing
sounds like you pay a couple hundred to come out even. Or do you really gain Hp in spite of the air being hotter.

Would you reccommend a K&N filtercharger over a cai? (my dad's lookin into getting a K&N cuz its alot cheaper)

With a aftermarket intake, you have the ability to bring more air into the motor, faster. That is why even with a WAI you will still see gains. The three best bolt on parts you can get, are Intake, Header, and a Exhaust. The reason being, is again, the faster you can get more air into the motor, and the faster you can get the exhaust out, the more HP you will gain. If I were in your position, I would maybe spend the $30 for a K&N now. Then save to buy all three at once. When you do this, you will really be able to feel the difference with the three, over one by one.

Slow · #13 08-28-2001, 07:36 PM

if you had a hood scoop on your car as well as a cold air intake, would there be a possibility of getting the cone wet? I also saw something about a water trap, but the website said that it would result in a loss of power. What's the truth about all this crap? (if u want to see the website i'm talking about, it's an ad for an ICEMAN CAI, at http://www.mmrusa.com/iceman.html. Thanx.

kris · #14 08-28-2001, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by Slow
if you had a hood scoop on your car as well as a cold air intake, would there be a possibility of getting the cone wet? I also saw something about a water trap, but the website said that it would result in a loss of power. What's the truth about all this crap? (if u want to see the website i'm talking about, it's an ad for an ICEMAN CAI, at http://www.mmrusa.com/iceman.html. Thanx.

Broken link.

But, as for the hood scoop. No, the cone could not get wet throught the hood scoop. With the CAI the cone filter is actually placed down low, behind the bumper, but in front of the tire. I will try and find a picture of it.

Slow · #15 08-28-2001, 08:40 PM

sorry, the link should be "...iceman.htm" not "html", but thanx for info on the hood scoop

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