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But i think the maxima is too familyish.... b/c i dont want no automatic crap  [/b]
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Herman, you dissapoint me. What the hell is that, you turning on Automatic all of the sudden and calling them crap?!?!?!?!?!?!??! While I think you should get the manual, Automatics are not crap!!! They have many advantages!!!! But like I said in a case of speed with no mod's yet, I would go ahead and get the manual(i love manual). And what is this crap about saying the Maxima is too "Familyish"!?!? Yeah maybe the gxe or the gle, but certainly not the SE and MOST certainly not the 20th AE Max!!!!! Your letting people on this board get to your head. While else would you have like the 20th AE in the first place if it was too "familyish"??? Your hearing all this stuff about handling and getting spooked. Herman, you and I both know you aren't going to race on a regular basis, and even if you do, you think it's going to be through turns??? I doubt it. Look at Chris....H/I/E and hardly races even on straight-a-ways. Sure the ITR may have better handling but you'll never use it and you know it. Im serious man, think of the car that will best suit your needs and wants. Whether it be the Max, IS300, or ITR. I just don't see you utilizing the ITR. Like the previous post, leave it to the race car enthusiasts. Now, the IS300 is nice too but it's still a 4 door and it's about 5k more.