[xencloud]

No, that's not what i was saying, I've listened a whole lot to the stock system in my friends IS300, and it's real good for a stock system(probably the best i've heard so far for stock), but nowhere near what I'm used to listening to in the systems I put together. Just having a decent stock system is no reason not to let anyone have some info on it. It's not sooooooooooo good that no one would consider upgrading, no what I mean! I figured about as much as the info you gave me, I figured they rate the 6x9's as four speakers, because I couldn't hear any ther speakers in the car besides those. I was just wondering if there were two more speakers hidden somwhere I didn't know about. Thanks for the info anyway!