Right, $500 apiece for the HKS ones... I looked! thats $1000 for a pair of camshafts! These are new billet and if you read it you would see that they grind them to your specs! So lets do the math here, HKS $1000 (From HKS) --- HKS New billet cams $390 (From Kelford) LOL its not hard to figure out were to get your cams! I bet these guys actualy make the camshafts for HKS SKUNKWORKS and a bunch of other companies! You find me a pair of HKS(tm) camshafts for $500 a pair and Ill shit a brick of gold and mail it to you! :greenchai