Good to know. Not sure what we wanna do right now. We have an 08 Chevy Uplander, we keep getting service traction and stability control, the tire gauges keep going off. The rear wiper doesnt work anymore. I think the tranny may be going. When its cold it doesnt seem like it wants to downshift right away when i leave a stop sign. It has 128,000 miles just seems like a lot wrong. We want something a little bigger and have been looking to the Suburban or Yukon XL. Oh yeah and we are in Wisconsin. So lots of salt.