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Old 03-21-2013, 09:10 PM   #1
Plata
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Unhappy Rebuilt tranny, fail when hot, any idea??

Hi AF friends, well, i'm from Mexico city, so my english languaje will not be so good as i expected, but well, i'll try to do my best LOL.

Well, now, i'm just desesperated, why? because my dear windstar 2000 3.8l engine, ax4s tranny, have a tranny failure, an it has just being rebuilt.

All start in a long travel (or journey??? i dont now, its when you just take your van and drive it to a far destination)

i have to tell that we bought the windstar as used car.

well, continue: i was driving it and then overdrive light started to blink i said "ho... cr...p" that horrible light, nooooooo. then the van started to rev up and loss traction when was into overdrive (or 4th gear) and then normalize, so i turned off overdrive, and it was "normal" but the light was blinking.

when we arrived to the destination, it has no Reverse and has difficult in shifting from drive to 1st and from 1st to second, also it doesnt engage 4th.

when returning fron destination, it was worse, has vibrations and strange issues while driving, so well, finally we arrived, also de mercon V oil was very very black, that means burned disks.

here in mexico its very difficult and expensive to find a rebuilt tranny, and people that "rebuild" the trannys are not experts, are just people that have a litle experience, but not so much.

so well, i've decided to rebuild my own transmission, it was a very difficult job, the van has to be jacked up in metal towers, remove wheels, safely support the engine, remove the front axle completely with the direction column on it (i dont know the exactly term for it)

well, the finally was the tranny, then, with the tranny out i proceed to... how can i tell it unbolt anything that has bolts? well, i remove all parts and put it on safe place, also i put in in order.


when opening, i note very strange things, oil pung was destroyed, so it damage its round ring, and make much metal little pieces taht goes to all the tranny.

then, when opened more, i found that revers discs and direct clutch was metal with metal, so disks was just to the garbaje, also the OD band was just metal, so, to the garbaje, and the worse, was the planetary gearset was litle destroyed.

i have proceeded to replace all disks, metal and no metal disks, replace the planetary gearset, all the orings, whashers, well, simplifying it, i replace almost ALL the pieces except the drums and big metal pieces.


finally i put the tranny in place, torqued it and tested it jakked, also it worked perfect, then i raised it to the floor and it works perfectly for a while, beacuase then it get warm and it has NO reverse and NO 1st gear, no manual 1st gear and no "drive" 1st gear, so the procedure, is to put in manual " gear, go to 10 KM/H, aprox 6 mph, then put it into drive and follow, but if i have to go to 0 mph, and then start to drive away, i have to repaet the procedure, put it in 2 and then into drive.



Please, if someone has experienced somethig similar, please help me, im desesperated, its very frusttrating that it does that to me :´( i have inverted a lot of money rebuilding it, and this its very desesperating.


PD:I have scanned it and throws two codes:

-TR low signal, (i have replaced and now the reverse lights works all right, but the problem proceeds)

-OS spedd output sensor, low signal (i havent replace it, but i test it, i just unplugged it, and the failure is the same)


and well, the failure its just when it is hot.


Thanks. Greetings.
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