[northern piper]

ya, I hear ya on that Phil... tho I must admit that the times I think to myself before doing some mechanical job "oh, I'll only need.." I find out upon starting that I'll also need....

A buddy of mine had a 1996 Jeep laredo. We had to do drums and shoes on his. He called me asking what size drums to buy (he's not a car guy) I ask him to provide the dealer with the vin and then they'll be able to sell him the right drums. Of course he does all this and (go figure) they sell him the 10 inch and he needed the 9.

So, I'm always of the habit now of actually holding onto the piece I need to replace before spending any money...

To the OP, just pull the drum adjuster rubber plug, roll the star wheel to release the shoes and the drums should come off. It might take a bit of work as often there's a rust "ring" that develops, but either way they need to come off.

I wouldn't waste any money or time in turning the drums, it's just not worth it any more with the tight tolerances they put on drums and rotors.