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Originally Posted by karmodeler2
If everyone has access to go and find people to do
"commission work", then why is it only limited to the turned metal parts?
What if I find a company that can make molds and cast some offspring from some of my masters and commission them to do that? Why can't I have some one like Bob Downie commissioned to paint my cars?
I think you are going down an EXTREMELY slippery slope when you allow one aspect of the model to be farmed out and not the others.
A model event/contest is just that: a competition.
There are going to be losers and winners. I have been both and when I lose, I make the choice to be better. Not farm my work out. The only way you are going to be a better modeler is to do the work yourself. NOT have someone do it for you.
If I get beat by someone who farmed out 90% of their model, then so be it. It's a competition. But I can tell you that the next one I bring is going to be tough to beat. And the work will be mine. If for some reason it's not, it will be annotated as such.
I saw a model at GSL by Ricky Couch that was jaw dropping. It could have won it's class on any day. But Ricky credited Jerel Wolfe for doing some of the metal work. He earned a lessor trophy for this, but he was HONEST in the fact that he did not do all the work. I think this caliber of person is the one who sets the example for the rest of us to follow. If you did not do the work, you should document that on the sheet with your model.
But wait........that would make me less of a builder in the eyes of my competitors, right?
David
(note: the words in this response are the sole work of the one responding and have not been influenced or farmed out from other sources)
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The only reason why turned metal parts were mentioned is that was the situation. It was fairly clear to most (I thought) that it was only for the turning of the piece, no other work at all. I consider the "construction" of the kit to be the assemblage and painting thereof, *not buying a part*, which this was.
What if that "farmed out" work was paid for? How is that different from ordering a specific request from an aftermarket manufacturer?
I do not see this as a slipperly slope. I honestly do not see this any differently as buying an aftermarket item. So is it wrong to ask Robert at RB Motion to do something he offers? Sure, you can say "...with RB Motion parts" but is that correct (according to your definition)? Seems like he'd be co-builder. That's a bit extreme.
I take a bit of offense at your suggestion that I would "farm out work" so I wouldn't lose. That's an unfounded statement for you to make. There are pieces on everyone's models that weren't "made" by them. Whether it be a resin piece or a turned bolt head, that's not your work and should be noted as such. Really? I say that I have certain aftermarket p/e or detail sets and I think that's where it ends. I do all my own construction, painting and scratchbuilding where needed. I add pieces to my kits that make it better that are made by others, such as Johnson Tang at Top Studio. Should I list him as a co-builder? I have resin and turned metal pieces from him on some of my entries. He didn't help me build my kit, though. Just provided me with the opportunity to make a better kit. But, I guess I should get a lower award because of it via your logic.
I think we should just agree to disagree. I don't think either of us will change our positions...