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Originally Posted by fredjacksonsan
Prophecy? Fair enough. However I looked up the verses that were mentioned, and I cannot understand how the conclusion is being drawn. Perhaps I looked in the wrong place, or the wrong version of the King James Bible?
There ARE several versions of it, all different in many parts....and this is the problem I have with any ancient text that has been copied over and over again -- that it is far, far, from the original. We've all played the game where you sit in a circle and whisper in the next person's ear -- then by the time it gets back to you it is completely different. Same principle.
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1John: 4"15
"Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him and he in God"
1 John 5:10 :
"He that believeth on the Son of God hath this witness in himself he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son"
I take it the scriptures above are what you read. Fred have you ever done any thorough study of HOW the bible was preserved and copied and translated over the centuries? As far as the O.T. goes, the Hebrews (scribes) had very strict rules to follow when copying O.T. text.
Here are a few:
"Each line on a new page had to be the exact same as the line on the old page. If the first line on the original page had nine words, the first line on the copy page had to have nine words.
After a page was copied, the number of letters on that page was counted and compared with the original.
After a page was copied, each letter was counted and compared with the original. After a page was copied, someone would check to see what the middle letter was on the copy and the original."
http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/h...preserved.html
Pages would be thrown out for one error, more than two errors in a book, the entire copy of the book was thrown out and they had to start over.
As for the New testament, Here is a quote of one bible scholar:
"The New Testament is constantly under attack and its reliability and accuracy are often contested by critics. But, if the critics want to disregard the New Testament, then they must also disregard other ancient writings by Plato, Aristotle, and Homer. This is because the New Testament documents are better-preserved and more numerous than any other ancient writings. Because they are so numerous, they can be cross checked for accuracy... and they are very consistent.
There are presently 5,686 Greek manuscripts in existence today for the New Testament. If we were to compare the number of New Testament manuscripts to other ancient writings, we find that the New Testament manuscripts far outweigh the others in quantity."
http://carm.org/manuscript-evidence
If the above is accurate there is pretty sound evidence we have accurate translations of the scriptures today.
So it is a matter of faith, whether you choose to believe what is written in 1 John or not. We Christians by faith believe it is true. If we are right, then as famlycar and gladhatter say, those verses show the doctrine of Islam to be false, and an offense to the true God because they deny Christ is Gods Son.
Furthermore, there is all the current evidence by their actions that they are a very violent, hate-filled religion that wants to take over the world by force. Quite the opposite of the doctrine of Christianity and the actions of Christians.
Muslims who aren't caught up in committing violent acts like the terrorists are just very misguided and deceived about the truth of the Musilm religion.