[papason]

Thanks for relating your experience. I was stuck in the sand, on the beach and the tide was coming in.right after the first wave splashed my wheels a kid with a 4runner shows up and has a chain. I went with the control arm because nothing else looks like it will work. we had to pull from the rear. I was in deep and it did not move the first two attempts. he then slammed it three times, I was concerned but looking at the other option of hoping my car floats, I just let him go.
there was some sign on the arm but once I got my wheels balanced there appears to be no touble.