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Old 10-21-2002, 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by replicant_008
I can understand that people are fearful and upset about this coward. However, we shouldn't forget even in this dark hour that some of our basic rights include the right for justice. And that's justice for those who have been killed innocently and for anyone who is suspected of the crime.
The only applicable justice is to strap his ass to a rope at the neck and let any of the vicitims (alive ones) and their familys have free swings with a baseball bat.


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He/she has the right to justice. This includes the right to a fair trial, due process, fair representation and access to qualified defence. And then if found guilty beyond reasonable doubt by a court of appropriate jurisdiction - then the applicable penalties under the applicable laws and the rights to appeal should apply.
Sure they do. They need to tried and found guilty. Nobody is saying they shouldn't be. What we are saying is that the punishment should be as painful and excruciating as imaginable.

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We elect legislators to pass laws that we agree with - laws that we consider fair and just - and for penalties that fit the crime. We shouldn't lose sight of that fact and that NO ONE IS GUILTY UNTIL THEY ARE PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
Whos talking about punishment for an individual who hasn't been convicted yet? Name a name. I haven't heard one. Clearly someone is doing this and once that person is CONVICTED then let the pain begin.

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If he/she is convicted of these heinous crimes by a court of competent jurisdiction then the appropriate state and federal laws will apply. If he/she or others are sentenced to capital punishment by those laws, so be it - that is what the elected legislature has so decreed.
Sorry, but duh. I dont know why you're so hung up on proving guilt. Someone is guilty. Be concerned that the right person is convicted of the crime. There is no name to that person yet so we can talk about punishment and retribution (yes I chose that word specifically) right now.

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The last thing we need is a kangaroo court or vigilantes or trial by media. This defeats the process of true justice. When he/she or them are caught, let them be tried in a fair court and then face the punishments that society has decreed fit the crime.
See above duh.

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Remember innocent people have been acquited on appeal, not everyone charged is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and mistakes happen. I'd rather we took time and made sure we don't ruin another innocent person's life in our eagerness for retribution.
Above duh once again. What person are you referring to? The one who hasn't been caught yet? Pretty ridicules to be concerned with wrongly convicting someone who hasn’t been apprehended yet..













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