thnks for the replies, especially you stickman, i tried that and it didnt work. the reason i wanted to put it in neutral is because i got a loud whining noise at 40+ mph, i put the rear end on jackstands and removed the rear driveshaft, had my wife get in and run it to 45mph (as my dumbass) got underneath it to try to find out if it was the tranny ot the t-case, i couldnt tell though. so if im able to put the tcase in neutral and the noise goes away i no its coming from the tcase, if not then i know its the tranny, so rite now im kinda stuck guessing which one it is. stickman, does your pushbutton have a neutral light for the tcase? mine doesnt just a light for 2hi, 4 hi/lo, but there would have to be a way to put it in nuetral right? in the event it had to be towed? thanks again guys.