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Originally Posted by fredjacksonsan
Couple questions first....you said he just gave you a warning, but also that you'd considered just paying the $200 ticket. Which is it, a ticket or a warning? (In VA, a warning is a warning with no financial penalty). Oh, wait, expired license....just pay that one I think.
...he'd seen other parts that were so made the [more safety oriented, that's his job] judgement that the entire road was slippery?
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Sorry, to clarify: He gave me a warning for the "too fast for conditions". After I explained/argued that I didn't feel that I was going too fast, he said that he was just going to give me a warning... then I gave him my license. They always check for warrants, etc. I've driven the exact same route a minimum of 2 times a day for 5 days a week for 5 years just going to work. Going out on the weekends adds a few more every week. I know the road and where drifts/ice form. There just wasn't enough snow or wind (and it was bitter cold). I think once he realized that I wasn't just some idiot that was running late to work he softened up a bit. I had driven 12 of 17 miles already, there were no slick spots and no upcoming "threats" that should be slick... hills that cause drifts and the resulting glaze of ice from exhaust systems melting a bit of snow, etc.. But he didn't know that until I explained it.
When I gave him my license he saw it was expired and the ticket I got was for that. Up until this year, I have checked my licence on my birthday every year. It figures the
one time I don't is when it's expires...
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Originally Posted by danielsatur
Treat the police with respect and give them no-reason to pull you, they are the judge on the road.
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I didn't do anything to disrespect him... it was hard not to laugh the way he started out, but I didn't. He gave me a warning after I argued with him, he wouldn't have done that if I had disrespected him. Respect and "rolling over" are two different things. They are not the judge... anywhere... period. That's how it's supposed to be, that's why we have real judges.
"Too fast for conditions" is a bunch of BS. It's his opinion vs. mine, although the courts usually side with the cop whether or not there is actual "evidence". Some guy with bald tires, no experience with controlling a skid, loose steering components/screwed up alignment and a half iced up windshield can drive 30 MPH. A guy with 10/32" of tread on some of the best snow tires made,
lots of experience controlling skids (primarily from drifting and donuts), a car in
perfect condition and cleared entirely of snow and ice can drive the same 30 MPH.