Thank you for that. I guess I am going to pull the tranny and either rebuild or buy a rebuilt one. The car has 192,000 miles on it, but it runs like a top. I hate to just junk it for $200. I want to do the cheapest thing possible. That's why I was asking if it's the actual transmission or the torque converter and how to check which one. I would hate to buy a tranny and have the torque converter be bad. That would suck!