and another thing. the S14's are maad slow stock. according the magazines they do 0-60 anywhere from 8.2 to 7.7 seconds. and the quarter mile in the low 16's. those honda's that i race with good drivers can get better times. but only marginally. i raced them then i was stock and when they had some power mods. now i race them with my mods. they still got more mods then me cusae htey progress as i progress. its just that i'm alittle behind. if you look at the streetracing forums. i have beaten another LS that weights around 100lbs less csaue its only a 2 door and dont' have a sound system. and he has better mods then myf riend. how did come i beat him by atleast a car? when my other friends can beat me by 1 and a half in a slower car? its all a drivers race man. oooo shit i just realized. thats exactly what you were referring to me in the begining. that i'm not that good. lolz well i guess what/ the honda drivers in your area probrably can't drive either. cuase my 2 friends that constantly makes fools out of me takes maxima's even the 02 ones in a drag. but theyr'e auto though. and they rap v6 stangs. and accord v6's. sooo does that make my car slow? becasue of those to them?