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Old 04-20-2008, 09:38 PM
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Re: Trans Filter Seal - Nightmare, Help? 4L60/700R4

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Originally Posted by Ol'Jim
After teaching my son for years to be patient and use logic when working on cars, I am trying hard to not lose my cool.
Simple trans fluid/filter change has been the most frustrating episode I've had in years, (and I get my share of them!).
Got past my disgust at GM Engineering, the bozo's who designed a truck so you have to drop a cross-member to simply service your trans - cannot remove pan without doing so. (And I am a GM die-hard, their superior engineering and ease of service/repair is what converted me from Fords & Mopars at a VERY young age).
Now the real issue - pulled off old filter, gotta get the old rubber sealing ring out of the trans case. They usually pull out with the filter, or simply by sticking a fingertip in there and tugging. This one won't budge. I've seen them rock-hard, where you can stick a screwdriver in there and break them, but this one is still somnewhat soft/pliable. Cannot remove it! Also cannot get a screwdriver in there at the necessary angle to pry, because this trans (4L60E) has 2 solenoids next to opening, one on each side. Valve body to rear, and exhaust crossover to front. Tried an Allen wrench, couple other levers, only succeeded in damaging the ID of the seal, so now I can not leave it in there. Tried driving small pick along the OD, and this thing has a STEEL outer band around it! Opened the new Wix filter box, and it has same type in there. No idea HOW you pull these out! Anyone got any ideas, or experience with this? It looks like this thing is supposed to be permanent. Can't imagine there is a special puller for removing them... At this point, I am gonna go wrench on the race car, as I am totally frustrated and out of ideas on the truck.
Please share your thoughts, so I don't have to leave this thing sitting outside, in the Kansas 40 MPH dust bowl wind, with no pan on it.
(Actually, I think I will put the pan on to keep things clean, and hope I hear from somebody soon).
THANKS in advance for any help you can provide. -Jim.
use a allen wrench with vice grips on hand end and try to pull down evenly on circumference ..

if this does nothing just leave the old one in......
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