for real man im a senior in high skool i cant afford a damn dohc vtec motor, and even if i could i wouldnt put it in i'd turbo and nos proof my zc motor instead....there are these guys in broken arrow a town near tulsa oklahoma for those of u that dont kno and they run and live in a shop called humble performance, one guy is really into dsm stuff and the other guy is into hondas mainly civics but only 5th gen up unless its a crx...ne waze they dont like me and the "crew" im in b'cuz our club prez bot a crashed '00 typre r teg and used the engine/tranny and got the stand alone apex ecu...they dont like us b'cuz he got a great deal on it and he wouldnt sell it to them, at $1000 less than what he paid at that! bastards. oh well, they have a 5th gen cx hatch that w/d16z6 turboed that runs 11.11 in the 1/4 and a 1st gen eclipse that runs 10.95 in the 1/4 so they kno thier stuff but they r ass holes to us