ok, i have checked everything i can. I am beginning to wonder if its the ecm as well. I have another out of a 95 lumina but am i opening up a new can of worms because these cars have a coded key? i think that has something to do with the ecm right? i remember changing a steering colum in a 97 lumina and when i got done it wouldnt even turn over cause the key didnt match the computer. am i right on this? thanks