hey crazy jim, thanks for the quick reply, yes everything appeared to be clean...is that normal for the water to gush out of that weep hole after turning the car off, is there any other thing around that area that could leak water, do these cars have freeze plugs near that area...2003 impala 3.4 engine...i will try and get the water pump exchanged at the auto parts store...thanks in advance..bobbyboy-g