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Old 01-24-2007, 04:45 AM   #22
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Re: How often do I see a photo of an F1 I can't identify?

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Originally Posted by Le Man
check out the bumper in the right hand side of this pic. Not the same shade of brown, on recollection he remembers the shade as being mid brown/bronze.



The car was in the early stage of build. Sorry no other pics of this colour car.
I think you are definitely on to something though, in more ways than one my friend.

Recall these screenshots you shared in this previous post:



Those seem to match up exactly with the color of that bumper. The timing from when that video was shot based on other cars pictured had left me suspicious that this was #029 back when you originally posted them. These images may actually show the car's final color as this is not how it's original color was described to me. I'm becoming increasingly convinced...

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Now back to the car that started this thread and another of your sets of screenshots - thanks again by the way.

In my opinion - this color that you identified as #039 "Creighton Brown" here in this post seems like it could definitely be an exact match for the F1 seen in Mexico. Here's your tiny color sample:



In fact just like with #029 above, I'm increasingly convinced that we are looking at chassis #039 in Mexico because of some info I got from another source in regards to the license plate 'P440 CPJ' seen on this car. He told me:

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The car plate is a normal UK plate. It normally gets assigned to the car for life, although its easily transfered via the DVLA.

One thing to note. It is P registered. By law, you can not put a registration number/letter newer than the car was first registered. i.e: you cant have a 2001 Merc C-class and put a 2006 reg on it to make it newer. You can put an older reg on it though.

Looking at UK registrations letters and dates...

01 August 1996 31 July 1997

That means, 'officially' that the car couldn't have been registered until after August 1996.
The reason he made this point was that he saw the Brazilian Brown car in what he thinks was 1995 (possibly 1996) and recalled Ron Dennis' first drive in it being on Easter of that year as it was the talk of the factory for several days. It would have needed to have been registered at that point, thus there is no way that #029 could be legally wearing the plate we see in these photos regardless of which year he spotted it. That makes sense to me, and almost positively excludes #029 from the list of possibilities here and firms up my opinion that the Mexico F1 is indeed chassis #039.

Another thing he recalled about #029 was a light tan interior which after a decade of memory loss (hey, it happens to the best of us ) could definitely describe what is seen in those screenshots. He said that apparently Creighton did have his own F1, but that the only car he ever saw the man driving was XP5.

Time will tell of course, but at this point I do think these are both becoming safe assumptions unless someone has information to the contrary they would like to share. Remember too, I am usually the skeptic around here lately when someone uses circumstantial evidence to positively identify an F1.

For now I feel comfortable calling each one "possibly #029" and "possibly #039" as referenced above.

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