[73superduty]

I'm not following what you are saying, but I use Testors Gloss black enamel. Alclad seems to hang on to that much better. I've also used Tamiya TS-14 and it too has worked.
It's best to have the thinner that matches the paint you are thinning. I use lacquer thinner for clean-up, and use the paint thinner associated with the product I am using.
Hope this helps.
Chris