an update here for yah a few days later. i have a friend who wrecked his gsr integra (im guessing its the b 16 or 18?) anyway my cheap dad also said no way. so point is i talked to a friend who has a shop and it takes a 450 ft lb of torque to break that hoe! and my air socket thing only puts out 130 so hes gonna let me borrow his and i hope that will work. and i hate to go against my honda roots but im getting a 240 and swaping out for the sr20det from japan. but im keeping my honda and will always be a honda guy at heart