[PaulD]

I am sure one of the spl guys can be of a lot more help for this ..... maybe I should include some of this stuff in the next write up.

Generally, the good, bad, ugly list is everything from the company unless specified.

Have you tried downloading winisd ? it is a free program on the net that will give you some pretty good box sizes - you will have to learn how to type in t/s parameters if the sub you want is not already included.