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Originally Posted by 93dawg
There just isn't any better all around cars built than a Supra. PERIOD!!!
There are still plenty of well taken care of good Supras for sale if one takes their time in looking and lots of them with low mileage. Lots of original owners hardly drove there Supras at all...
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Very debatable. The Supra had a drivetrain that was bullet proof, yes, but most open minded auto connoisseurs would laugh at the idea that the Supra is the world's best all- rounder. Alot of people will hate me for saying this, but the big single turbo Supras that put out 600+ hp suck as road cars. Yes, you can rag them out in a straight line, but try and really enjoy one on a twisty two lane back road, and it will only be a matter of time before you total it. (I'm sure somone will use this as an excuse to brag about their mad tite driving skills and they way in which they race through Deal's Gap in a fictitious 900hp Supra every week). And yes, for the record, I have driven a 600 horspower Supra on the road, and I immediately had to go change my underwear. "Fun" is not how I would describe that car.
As far as Supras with more realistic road set ups go- C5 Corvettes and M3s are known for being sweeter handling cars with better overall roadcourse numbers.
As far as design goes- someone claimed that the Supra had a huge impact on the automotive world. I seriously doubt that the Mustang designers had the Supra in mind when they designed their car's brake ducts and trunk lid. By the time the Supra hit showroom floors, that body style Mustang was already in its preproduction phases. If I recall correctly, the last Supra's exterior design was the brunt of alot of jokes in car magazines. At the time alot of people thought it was embarassingly derivative and a perfect example of what is wrong with bland Japanese automotive design. In fact, as far as "impact" goes, the Supra was really a kind of "Johnny come lately," as the 300zx and 3000GT/ Dodge Stealth had already set the scene for the Japanese sports cars war.
BTW, don't get me wrong- I would LOVE to have a Supra. As a matter of fact, I could now (finally) afford one. But the fact remains that, unless you intend to build a very capable import drag car, the Supra doesn't really have the goods to justify its extremely inflated price. Yes, many offended Supra owners will say "I have the right to do what I want with my car," but the rest of us also have the right to call it as we see it.
Mark my words- There is nothing wrong with paying top dollar for a car you really like. But you eventually approach a level of lunacy, no matter how much money you have to throw around. When everyone has forgotten about "The Fast and the Furious," the Supra will settle back down into book value territory. When that happens, you will have alot of Supra owners who will wonder what in the world they were thinking, regardless of whether they want to admit it or not.
Don't beleive me? This type of stuff happens all the time. Ask some of the collectors who bought up Ferraris like crazy right after Enzo died. Values soared, but most those cars are now barely worth half of what the owners originally paid for them (and that's without taking inflation into account!). And wait till the muscle car craze dies down. I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing that any of the guys paying 2 mil. for hemi Cudas will ever see that money again. Granted, the overpricing of Supras isn't quite as exaggerated as those examples, but most of the middle class guys who buy these cars will probably suffer more for the money lost on a passion driven Supra purchase than those bazillionaire collectors ever thought about.
BTW, the above is in reference to MKIV Supras. MKIII Supras can be bought at bargain basement prices, and are probably one of the best deals going in terms of low budget performance builds. My brother and I replaced the head gasket on a 91 model and built the hell out of it while we were at it. That car was flat out wicked.