[neogeon]

that's not necessarily true, its a matter of displacement. Both my car (spec v) and my sister's 2000 altima both have very torquey 4 cylinders and feel pretty fast compared to most cars. Its just the matter that honda completely and totally sucks at making a car that isn't idiot proof (in other words, not fun to drive at all). Also, 2nd gear tops out at 70 mph in the integra, so watching the revvs climb is like waiting on christmas. Hes going to look at a modded 240sx by a private owner soon and ill see if the owner did a decent job or totally fucked the car up.