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Old 03-21-2006, 07:18 AM   #13
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Re: '04 venture - leaky intake

CDRU claims, "A TSB is NOT a reliable indication that GM is fixing a problem free or doing a recall."

Okey-dokey, read this last paragraph from the link. http://www.noln.net/features/feature3.html
"Plus, some lawsuits are claiming that Dex-Cool is at least partially responsible for the string of intake manifold gasket failures on GM vehicles equipped with 3.1L or 3.4L V6 engines. For its part, GM has issued a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB 03-06-01-010) that entitles some owners of affected vehicles to a FREE gasket repair. The service bulletin blames the gasket material, not Dex-Cool, for the problem."

Veddy, veddy interesting link saying GM has been sued in eight states over the Dex Cool issue.
"Shortly after vehicles filled with Dex-Cool were sold, GM was presented with data and complaints from customers, its engineers, its dealers, fleet accounts, service technicians and the media of corroded, rusted and clogged radiators, eroded aluminum cylinder heads, eroded water pumps and thermostat housings, rotten and leaking radiator hoses, leaky heater cores and freeze plugs, corroded radiator caps, deposits within the cooling system, damaged and leaky cooling system gaskets, damage to the head gaskets, chronic overheating, damage to the engine, oil in engine coolant system, leaking coolant, deposits on the overflow tank and sludge in the engine coolant system," the Illinois suit alleges, adding that as early as late-2000, GM engineers were observing coolant contamination in several thousand GM off-lease cars less than four years old.
The Illinois lawsuit also said that at a presentation by GM engineers at the 2001 MACS convention in Orlando, Florida, the engineers told attendees that there are cooling system problems in GM vehicles.
The lawsuits are charging GM and other co-defendants with consumer fraud, and asking for "an award of damages, attorneys' fees, costs, pre- and post-judgment interest, and such relief as the court deems just and proper."


I'm not a lawyer but I have worked colections for a consumer finance company. I believe if I were forced to file suit in small claims court and asked for a jury trial and used the above document/link as evidence, presented the TSB as evidence, I believe I'd end up being awarded enough to get it done free. Heck, I have a lawyer friend and I bet if I took all the documentation to him he could write a letter that to the Chevy dealer that would check their pucker factor BECAUSE, IF we sued in court and won, not only would GM/Chevy dealer have to fix the manifold gasket for free, BUT they would ALSO have to pay the attorneys fees, court costs and serving fees. You have a problem like this and sue in small claims court, ALWAYS ask for a jury trial because the jury always relates to the average working stiff who is getting shafted by the big company or corporation. Like the link said, you could throw in consumer fraud and make reference to the Tort law; "strict liability torts(e.g., liability for making and selling defective products." http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Tort

Please click, "Products Liability."


Hmmm . . . Now that I have this all before me, might be best to go ahead and sue in BIG court.



Doggone it, IMHO, fact of the matter is, GM put a defective gasket in some of the engines and they should have stepped up to the plate and done the right thing and made good on them. That's all, . . . just do the right thing and treat people right.

" the Illinois suit alleges, adding that as early as late-2000, GM engineers were observing coolant contamination in several thousand GM off-lease cars less than four years old.The Illinois lawsuit also said that at a presentation by GM engineers at the 2001 MACS convention in Orlando, Florida, the engineers told attendees that there are cooling system problems in GM vehicles."
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