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Originally Posted by Elk
The Wrangler (and in some cases the G-Wangen) are only vehicles on your list that can out perform the H2. The rest of the vehicles you listed don’t have the approach or departure angles even close to the H2 and would easily get stuck on stuff that wouldn’t even touch the H2. In addition to that: The Grand Cherokee (Commander is just a Cherokee with a new body) can’t even make it up a muddy hill Video. All Land Rover tip-over on a 30 degree side slope wall all Hummers can do 40. The Toyota Landcruiser Amazon is the city SUV version of the Landcruiser, it doesn’t even have a locking rear diff. And I don’t even know why the Touareg is on your list, is it because of all those mag articles where the author drives it around on pavement and then wrights about how good VW said the Touareg is off-road? |
The Landcruiser Amazon is the European name for the full fat Landrcuiser you moron, the Land Cruiser is the European name for the Land Cruiser Prado. So just because an H2 can handle 10 more degrees on a side-sloped wall, that makes it better than the Land Rovers? So all other stuff is unimportant then?? Yeah right. Defenders have served the British army and farmers proudly for 40 years, H2's have served Sandra Soccermom and FIDDY CENT y0 in thier trek to the supermarket or GHETTO y0!
The Touareg is an excellent offroader, it's fully loaded for offroading (air suspension, triple skid plates, locking center and rear diff, water sealed doors, etc.) Since you think breakover angles are so important, the Touareg has a 28 degree breakover angle, that's more than an H2 (25 degrees), with apporach and departure angles only a small way off (about 3-4 degrees, hardly a big deal) Those are with the air supension optional on V6 and 5 Cylinder Turbo diesel, standard on V6 TDi, V8 and V10 TDi. Maybe if your head wasn't so far up the H2's ass you'd actually realise it's simply not as good as the VW.
But then who cares out big the rock or log that you can clear is, because there's so much more to offroading than that, things like: gearing, tires, torque bias, wheelbase, strength of parts, center of gravity (Where the H1 tripped up)- This is what most SUV's hold over the H2. Besides, the H2's shitty breakover angle makes its huge departure/approach angles not worth a shit.
None of these cars snap tie rods with extremely light rock-crawling either.... Also good luck offroading on those ridiculous "Bling Bling fiddy cent y0" baloon tyres....