I agree with most of your post, GTPDad. Where I differ:
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Now, did the Bush administration do something illegal yes they did, as each wiretap should have been authorized by a judge. But lets put everyone in this debate on the spot and ask what would you have done if you were told that a certain group of people were plotting to blow up a mall or high rise and kill thousands but you didn't have any information other than the name of the group and a couple of members.
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Start the wiretaps. Get some buddies and find a judge to report the wiretaps to. Follow the law so that I would be working cleanly and so no one could come back later and say I broke the law.
Put in your request the reason (antiterrorism) and the information you have.
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No judge would give you a warrant to do wiretaps with that amount of information.
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Conjecture and speculation. I don't think any of us here are judges, so stating that "no judge would give you a warrant with that amount of information" isn't really valid.
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Suppose you did nothing and that attack happened. The people would crucify you for inaction. So we have to ask ourselves, do we act or do we ignore the issue?
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As stated above, act but do it the right way. Once you cross the line of legal and illegal, you are wrong. The President should have to abide by the same laws as the rest of us.
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Finally, the free borders of the United States have created a large part of these problems. Allowing foreign nationals to come into the US unchecked have given rise to issues that were never a consideration before. My grand parents were immigrants in the 1920's who came here for a better life they didn't come to try to overthrough our way of life but to live that life for themselves. Today radicals are trying to destroy the American way of life because of their own ideas as to how we should live they are not coming here to live the American dream, a portion of them are coming to try to create as much chaos and damage as they can and are willing to sacrifice themselves to insure that it happens.
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Agreed. 3/4 of my grandparents came over just prior to WWI. They did it legally, despite being dirt poor and unable to speak English. They worked hard and made a life for themselves, legally. The standards of the current immigrants should be the same. /offtopic, there are other immigration threads.