I think if you get a pair of W3's which I plan on buying in the next week it will rock the shizz out of anything. My boy had 3 10w3s b4 he upgraded to a sub floor with (6)10w3's which is disgusting. If you have proper amps and have CONTINUOS power going into them rather than PEAK power its should tear your Fukin head right off. Frogg one question tho'. What Amp is your are you running and your bro running that Perfect 12's are out playing w3's? Im not hating on your subs at all I was gonna buy a set myslef. the only reason I didnt is because they are more sound quality and Im going SPL. I had ImageDynamics and they played every note to a "T" but in my efforts of trying to get more BOOM they bit tha dust. Lemme know