hey twisted i didn't mean to guess. In fact i know that you can't get a good vr-4 for 9.5k. My idea of good shape must be quite diff from yours. My idea of a good vr-4 is in perfect shape with less than 70k miles. I'm sorry that i take pride in what i drive and don't want to drive a P.O.S. like you. I'm shure you can get one for 9.5 as long as you don't mind the faded paint, dints, torn up interier, and high miles. It didn't stop twisted.
