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Old 07-14-2005, 01:32 PM
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Re: Detroit is out of ideas

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Originally Posted by clawhammer
The worst part is that they're going to go to congress and beg them to save their butts. That will be bad for the consumer.
And that, my friends, is why a Z06 is cheaper than an ///M3.

Anyways, its a pretty much known fact that all the American auto companies copy each other (regarding the portion speaking about the Mustang, so now GM/Chrysler are brining out their own models)...I mean, wasn't the first Camaro deisgned, built, and market less than 11 months after the first Mustang? Thats pretty damn impressive.

I know alot of people who wont buy a Dodge/Chrysler product becuase they believe that their upper management some convinced the guys at Benz to spend more time on the Dodge/Chrysler cars than their own. In result, yeah Dodge and Chrysler have become nice cars, but Benz has gone down hill.

I'm not gonna say anything about GM, I have my feelings regarding GM products, and they won't be changing anytime soon.

Ford...wow. Well, I'll be honest. I dislike Ford to the point of almost hating them (oddly enough my first real introduction to the automotive world was a report on the Ford Motor Company's evolution). I feel they have ruined respectable car brands (Mazda and Volvo), and ran out of good ideas back in 1980...however, oddly enough again, the only two Domestic cars I'd even consider purchasing at this time are both Fords (kinda...an 03 S/C Cobra with a Keene Bell SC, or a 03 Saleen).

TheStang00....I think your missing the point. There is nothing new about the new Mustang. None whatsoever...its the car that should have been released in 99, not 04. All it is is a retro body design, something Dodge had been doing (Prowler and PT Cruiser, anyone?). And IMHO, if I wanted a car that looked like an early Mustang with a more modern motor....I'd buy an old Mustang and put a new motor in it. And yes, Domestics have been becoming more reliable since the early 90s...But both Asian and Euro imports HAVE BEEN reliable since before the 90s.

And with the way gas prices are going, I feel (and oh so gladly do I feel) that the age of the SUV and Truck is comming to an end. I was talking to a friend who owns a few Ford dealerships here in Texas, and even he told me that at his dealerships, sales of trucks (Including SUVs, not just those stupid pickups) has been declining. And oh so gladly have I noticed fewer and fewer SUVs on the road.

I agree with alot of what this article is saying. There isn't anything really special comming out of the domestic markets at all. The new Mustang? Its just a retro body design that finally has a powerfull motor. The Cobalt SS? GM did what many serious Sunfire/Cavy tuners have already been doing, and add a Supercharger to a four banger. The Dodge Charger? An abomination of the only clasic car I would want to own. I mean, really. Take a step back, and look at what kind of cars that the Domestic Manufacturers are offering...and tell me whats so new or special or revolutionary about them. And then, before you tell me...find out how many of them came from ideas already put out by the European and Asian manufacturers that said Domestic brands own...or are owned by.
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