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well it is an issue of semantics, ill admit the new civic is the revival of the car culture, but they are not muscle cars. Muscle cars were (according to most, albeit not all) family cars turned high performance. The GTO was a Tempist that they dropped a massive engine into, a four speed and posi rear end. The chevelle was a malibu, and so on and so forth. They were big family cars with full sized back seats, full size trunks, and huge powerplants that put the power down through a high performance drivetrain. The civic is not a muscle car because its not that way from the factory, the turbo civics are hot rods to be sure, but not muscle cars. The camaro and mustang are pony cars because they had no base model insipration, they were designed from the tires up to be sports cars that were lighter, handled better, and were smaller. does that make a bit more sense?