thing is, i have no way to jack up the motor...did think of that though, and would work if i had the equipment. At this point, am gonna have to put it in a shop and let them deal with it. jacking up the front of the motor would work, but i have to leave the truck completely on the ground just to get the floor jack i have to reach the tranny. no other way for me to do it without access to a lift, a good tall (screw kind) jack stand, and a normal tall tranny jack. Thanks for the replies though.